PBC/NBC done at the end of this year?

[Sportsguy]

Nba finals game 7 had 30+ million and peaked over 40 million. GSW games were getting 6, 7, 8 million for semi vs port, NBA is big and finals was the thing to watch.

[HeroBando]

No one knows what Al Haymon's motivation was for starting PBC and running it the way he has run it. Everything that has been said about his plans (to take over boxing or anything else) is speculation because Haymon has said nothing to no one.

Also, no one knows how much money PBC is making or losing in its boxing matches. Every critic and genius who has ever watched a boxing match claims that Haymon has lost virtually all of his investor's money, but no one, including Fat Dan Rafael truly knows anything Haymon or PBC's business dealings.

Haymon has helped a lot of boxers make a good living through PBC and given fans as many entertaining fights as have been produced by GBP, TOp Rank or any other promoter. If the company continues to thrive for the next 10 years, that will be great. If it folds next year, we will simply go back to the days where Bob Arum and Oscar ive us such great matchups as Pacquaio vs David Diaz and Canelo Alvarez vs Liam Smith on PPV. Its no big deal either way.

Folding after burning through 500m+ in 2 years with nothing to show for but declined premium cable ratings is kind of a big deal. It's an epic flop, puts the xfl to shame. Though hardly anyone would notice cause it has way less name recognition than the xfl. Except TV execs who now know to stay away from this business

[al-Xander]

Not a surprise. Everything uncle Al touches is short term, if you haven't noticed. HBO, SHO, PBC. He'll probably join Schaefer next year and look for other gullible investors.

[ShoulderRoll]

Basketball is over. Football is still months away.

This would be a good time for PBC to step into the void, put their best foot forward, and give people an alternative to the loooooooong baseball season. Put on the best matchups and see how the fans respond.

Lara vs Zaveck or Fonfara vs Joe Smith type fights aren't going to cut it anymore.

[HeroBando]

Basketball is over. Football is still months away.

This would be a good time for PBC to step into the void, put their best foot forward, and give people an alternative to the loooooooong baseball season. Put on the best matchups and see how the fans respond.

Lara vs Zaveck or Fonfara vs Joe Smith type fights aren't going to cut it anymore.

You see their ESPN schedule? It's like they don't care anymore

[ShoulderRoll]

You see their ESPN schedule? It's like they don't care anymore

Yes. It's horrible.

They took away Friday Night Fights just to give us that?

[bigdunny1]

If you are surprised by this then you are either in denial or have your head too far up haymons rear that you can't see straight. This has been an epic disaster. Heads are starting to roll with 2 head execs at ESPN and NBC being fired because of PBC. Their own investors are suing claiming haymon has lost all their money. The ratings have not grown on any of the networks, instead it's actually opposite trending down on each. They had to cancel damn near half the show dates for 2016. ESPN was announced last year as a monthly series with 24 shows including a couple to air on ABC. That never happened and they went 8 months without a show as one by one shows were canceled. Then when they came back they announced it would only be a summer series with like 6 shows. And look at the names that are filling those shows. So no chance ESPN airs PBC when the air time is over. That leaves only CBS, but they canceled their afternoon PBC series because the ratings were terrible last year and have not aired a PBC show in almost a year and it took showtime buying and agreeing to produce the Thurman/porter fight to air another PBC fight. FOX ratings have dropped off faster then the NBC ratings posting worse ratings each card but with a lower ceiling more then 1/3 worse then what NBC started with. It took fox just 4 months and 2 shows to post ratings that took NBC 8 months and 4 shows to fall to.

The ratings on the smaller cable networks like spike and fs1 are not anything to brag about. Spike gets better ratings with bellator which costs infinitely less to produce. Ratings in fs1 are the exact same as golden boy live got except gb operated on a fraction of the cost. Golden boy had like a 50k show budget. PBC draws bad ratings but worse is way to expensive to produce which is why PBC canceled a mass amount of show fates and are putting cheap haymon b and c rate fighters to headline opposed to the a list names that headlined last year. Sending most of his better fights back to showtime because PBC can't afford to pay them. Look at Thurman and porter fight purses. Both stepping up and are they making more money for more risk? No they actually taking a paycut from last year.

[lazy]

PBC airs shows randomly here and there. Fans will tune to a channel each week at a scheduled time to watch boxing. Fans return! But once a month on one channel and once a month on another. Probably why it won't last like normal weekly boxing series.

[deanrw]

CBS and FOX have always been the two hopes. CBS because they are affiliated with Showtime and FOX because they will lose the UFC to ESPN when their deal is up.

It's probably best that PBC fails though. 1.5 years into this experiment and the best fights we've had are Thurman-Porter, Thurman-Guerrero, and LSC-Mares. ****ing pathetic!

Yeah they could have done a much better job. I don't think it was Haymon's fault 100%. Like the old saying goes, you can lead a horse to water, but you cannot force him to drink it. Fighters are the same way. It is not just in PBC either, as all promoters do it. Fighters either make the fight fiscally impossible or pick the path to least resistance.

Some fighters are brought along way too slow. Others seem happy with a steady diet of stay busy fights and then drown when they finally do face a live fighter (Quillin) etc. The sport is riddled with the foolishness.

[bigdunny1]

When you blow hundreds of millions according to reports 500mil you need a mega TV deal from one of the big 4 networks to bail you out. Hell even a 100 mil a year tv contract which is never gonna happen will mean your investors recoup and break even in like 5 years. So getting a small realistic TV deal like 10m a year based on their ratings means investors might expect to get their money back in say...50 years! LMAO no PBC is limiting costs to play out as many of the remaining cards they have left and then quietly they will fold. No network is going to give them the type of money they need to justify keeping this going for their investors.