Manny Pacquiao vs Adrien Broner

[Dean_Razorback]

whose alt is kigali, fucking troll

[HAY-B]

The question is more wich Manny will show up.
Cuz if Manny is game, you can bring 3 Broners, not mater wich on shows ups, bring them all!

You guys talking about a guy who almost lost to Paulie and won't be competitive (let alone beating) with any elite fighter at 147.

I just wonder how Manny is motivated with boxing right now, especially fighting Broner.


Broner is just a limited fighter skill wise, he's flashy and but he lacks Fundamentals and technics, Manny himself is a much more polished and serious fighter.

A game Manny just beat Broner from pilar to post.
His defense is just too flawed, he would eat those shots and would not handle the pace.
He doesn't have Floyd's border line tricks to slow down Manny's pace.

Watch Broner spar then watch his actual fights. They are two different people. I'm not concerned about which Manny will show up because IMO its which AB will show up. Manny fights the same way each time IMO. sometimes he's more aggressive then others. But fmj showed you how to nullify that aggression. If AB doesn't defend with latteral movement and leans back or moves straight back any version of Manny destroys him. If he sticks and moves like he did against Molina he beats Manny. So to me it comes down to which AB shows up. Before you say it I know Molina is slow but AB is fast enough to fight the same against manny's speed.

[Kigali]

Maidana and JMM fights Nothing a like.
JMM lures you into different traps.
Maidana is a coming forward stalker using dirty tricks, he likes to have the first word.

Maidana does well against low work rate fighter.

Styles make fights, Maidana hates speed, quick combos and to fight at a high pace, remember the Kahn fight, and yes, I think Manny is not a good style for Marcos.

Hell, Maidana vs Manny would have been a helluva fight, cuz based on his size and power, Chino could hurt and stop lil Manny.

Maidana(like most Argentines) throws crazy angled punches you just don't see coming...he still employs the right hook,a RARE punch in today's boxing.

The right hook is almost unheard of in modern boxing.

If I managed fighters I wouldn't let my guys anywhere near a fighter from Argentina.

[HAY-B]

So I'm asking a question, what are his "god given habilities"?

Fast hands and reflexes and footwork (we he displays it which is rare)
Look to me AB is what we call a practice player. Meaning in practice you see all of the gifts but in the game those gifts are rarely displayed. In sparring you see it but it doesn't translate to fight night.

[Kigali]

Watch Broner spar then watch his actual fights. They are two different people. I'm not concerned about which Manny will show up because IMO its which AB will show up. Manny fights the same way each time IMO. sometimes he's more aggressive then others. But fmj showed you how to nullify that aggression. If AB doesn't defend with latteral movement and leans back or moves straight back any version of Manny destroys him. If he sticks and moves like he did against Molina he beats Manny. So to me it comes down to which AB shows up. Before you say it I know Molina is slow but AB is fast enough to fight the same against manny's speed.

Soon as the bell rings Broner's game plan goes right out the window.

[BillyBoxing]

Broner moved up and tried to fight Maidana like he did all those lightweights.

What would Pac look like against Maidana?

Face down again that's what.
Marcos throws blind alley right hands that would make JMM blush

So much excuses for Broner, "he tried to fight him like a lightweight."
THEN, Broner is DUMB AS FACK if he tried to fight a big welterweight like a lightweight.
I can't help the guy if he fails to realize he's moving up.

You really think Broner is a better fighter than Pacquiao?

You guys won't give credit to the Pacman.
He's has been taking some praise over your boxing heroe Floyd.
UNFORGETABLE

Broner isn't an elite fighter IMO, because he never was competitive at the elite level.

Mimicking an elite fighter doesn't make you elite.

[HAY-B]

Soon as the bell rings Broner's game plan goes right out the window.

Exactly. You see it in every fight. He's too busy trying to put on a show. Instead of boxibg to win he starts to look for the one punch ko instead of settung it up. They work on this siht every camp and once the bell rings he gets amenesia.

[umop-ap!sdn]

Pacman is a senator he can't leave his country for long periods at a time anymore so if he does return to the sport Im willing to bet his next fight takes place in his country. How cool would that be to see the greatest most exciting fighter of the last decade return to the ring .

I agree... I've been waiting to see BRONER back in the ring for a good few months now!

[BillyBoxing]

Fast hands and reflexes and footwork (we he displays it which is rare)
Look to me AB is what we call a practice player. Meaning in practice you see all of the gifts but in the game those gifts are rarely displayed. In sparring you see it but it doesn't translate to fight night.

Watch the olympic games (Something where AB wouldn't be able to touch gold), it's full of kids with fast hands, quick reflexes and footwrok.

Pratice player, OK, but against who?

Show me sparring where he compete Floyd, Manny, Danny or Mickey Garcia and MAYBE I will admit he can be elite in the gym.
And even, sparring doesn't mean sht, great fighters use sparring to perfect their game, not to win the rounds.
if it's agaisnt Stever Forbes or some mexicans face first sluggers..I won't buy it.

The problem with Broner is he can't compete with the elite because he's not serious enough and thinks too much of himself.

Boxing is 90% in the head, and Broner doesn't seem to be smart enough to be part of the creme de la creme.

I wish I was wrong because the more elite guys we have in the sport, the more happy I am (mostly if they face each other, anotther debate...)

[Kigali]

So much excuses for Broner, "he tried to fight him like a lightweight."
THEN, Broner is DUMB AS FACK if he tried to fight a big welterweight like a lightweight.
I can't help the guy if he fails to realize he's moving up.

You really think Broner is a better fighter than Pacquiao?

You guys won't give credit to the Pacman.
He's has been taking some praise over your boxing heroe Floyd.
UNFORGETABLE

Broner isn't an elite fighter IMO, because he never was competitive at the elite level.

Mimicking an elite fighter doesn't make you elite.

That's not an excuse...that's what the fool did...and yes...he is dumb as fu.ck for doing that.

He didn't change or add a thing..Broner had zero respect for Maidana and thought it was business as usual.


Give Broner a bunch of recently beaten and drained fighters and he'll do what Pac did,even better.