Question: What exactly was wrong with Evander Holyfield?

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  • elgu
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    #51
    Originally posted by SouthPawHitman
    I'm not worried but thanks anyways mang. I'm here to educate the forum. If that makes a person,that's not my problem. People are very naive if they think the guys in boxing and every other sport don't use performance enhancing drugs
    I believe most of them are using. The problem comes when they use and they don't allow their opponent to use(May/Pac). Also i think there is a handful of athletes that are clean and out of respect to them we can't say everyone is using. Even if your hero is a cheat.

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    • SouthPawHitman
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      #52
      Originally posted by VatoMulatto
      Some do but clearly not everyone is a drug cheat, it's pretty naive to think everyone is juicing and it's not fair to all the athletes that don't take illegal stuff to accuse them of cheating. If Holyfield was juicing doesn't mean that someone like Lennox Lewis was also on steroids.

      BTW...since everyone is doing it are you saying the man in your avatar (Ward) is a cheater?
      Are you asking if Dre is on steroids?

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      • soul_survivor
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        #53
        Originally posted by Mitchell Kane
        I think Holyfield was too inconsistent to be considered top 5...he beat post-prison Tyson twice, but his results against some other fighters weren't as good: Bowe (1-2), Lewis (0-1-1), Moorer (1-1), Ruiz (1-1-1).
        He avenged the Moorer loss, so what? Then his losses to Lewis and especially to Ruiz came years past his best.

        Holyfield is a top tier ATG. You're just going to have to get used to it.

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        • VatoMulatto
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          #54
          Originally posted by SouthPawHitman
          Are you asking if Dre is on steroids?
          Yes...Is the man in your avatar a drug cheat?

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          • SouthPawHitman
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            #55
            Originally posted by VatoMulatto
            Yes...Is the man in your avatar a drug cheat?
            It would be naive to think not.

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            • Mitchell Kane
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              #56
              Originally posted by soul_survivor
              He avenged the Moorer loss, so what? Then his losses to Lewis and especially to Ruiz came years past his best.

              Holyfield is a top tier ATG. You're just going to have to get used to it.
              The "so what" is Holyfield had a losing record against Bowe and Lewis and only a .500 record against Moorer.

              The "past his best" argument to explain the Lewis fights isn't all that persuasive.

              Lewis-Holyfield should've happed in 1998, not 1999, and even happening when it did, there was only 1 fight between the Tyson/Moorer fights (arguably the best 3-fight stretch of Holyfield's heavyweight career) and the Lewis fight.

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