Comments Thread For: Canelo To Return in September, Talks With Golovkin To Continue

[kafkod]

Why are you lying kid ?

We have discussed this previously, so why are you lying ?

Ward fought Smith in June 2015, these REFUSALS happened in July.....

164 or No Fight.....
http://www.boxingscene.com/golovkins...o-fight--93850

Ward (must be) willing to accept a 164lb catch-weight.....
http://www.boxing news 24.com/2015/0...-basis-at-164/

Maybe you are confused, and are thinking about the SECOND time that Team Bull**** ducked Ward in September 2015..... ?

Roc Nation: GGG's Team Turned Down Ward in 36 Minutes.....
http://www.boxingscene.com/roc-natio...minutes--96761


It really is hilarious that you fanboii's would prefer to cut off one of your fingers rather than admit that lil'G ducked Ward

Are you really this ******? The 2nd link you posted is dead. The first is just Abel sounding off, and that statement was NOT made in response to an offer from Ward.

There was no offer from Ward till AFTER GGG had signed to fight Lemieux and been guaranteed his shot at the WBC 160 title.

How many times does that need to be explained to you?

And even if Golovkin had asked for a catchweight in response to an actual offer from Ward - which he didn't - that would have been completely consistant with what he's always said about moving up to 168 ... that he would only do it for a big PPV fight.

GGG/Ward would NOT have been a big PPV fight. GGG vs Chavez Jr and Froch would have been big PPV fights.

I'm sick of giving you these facts over and over again. If you haven't got anything new to say on the subject, shut up about it, ffs.

[deathofaclown]

Canelo is fighting either Lemieux or Stevens in September, that's the whole reason they were on the undercard of the Canelo v Khan fight. They have no intention of fighting GGG soon.

[kafkod]

lol, you have no idea, canelo fought angulo and lara with no titles on the line, and most of my friends thought canelo was the champion, an even more each one of those non-title fights did better ppv numbers than cotto-maravilla for the MW crown...
pac-marquez 4 is another example where casuals didnt even know there was no titles on the line...
lets see if ggg can headline a ppv fight with all the titles he has...

So they thought they were watching a title fight then, and most casual fans are better informed than your friends.

And the point is that after the publicity about Canelo handing his belt over to GGG, everyone now knows that he isn't the world champion any longer, and why. Even your ill-informed friends.That has got to affect his popularity and PPV numbers.

GGG is doing fine without US PPV income. His fights sell all over the world. The same will not be true of Canelo now.

[MDPopescu]

DIdn't he just vacate his belt?

... he still holds Oscar's "lineal" belt at 160...

[kafkod]

Hmmm. I think he wanted to emphasize that Canelo is in reality a bigger middleweight than GGG, your argument is valid if Ward stay the same 168lb at fight night, but you should now that it is impossible, when GGG is 172 Andre will probably be around 180-185 at fight night. And there is no need to say words such "Golovtards", everyone entitles to his/her own opinion, no need to insult others.

Nah, that's bull****.

Pretty sure that guy is a golovtard, just like you

FYI - only casual fans mention fight-night weight. REAL fans understand that the total amount of functional muscle-mass and conditioning that you can take into a fight is determined at the official weigh-in..... rehydration weight, or water-weight, will not help at all in that regard, and can even be detrimental.

Canelo has never fought a middleweight opponent, and has never prepared for a fight where he will weigh more than 155.

He will be much stronger at 160, just like Ward is at 175.

Rehydration weight won't make you stronger, but the heavier you are, the more weight (momentum) you can get behind your punches, and the more weight your opponent has leaning on him in clinches and when he is trying to push you back. So fight night weights do matter.

Canelo would probably be stronger after hitting 160 than 155, but so what? Golovkin would also be hitting 160 in that case.

Whatever, your point is invalid, because Ward has been rehydrating from 168, 172, and 175, NOT from 160. Clearly, he is significantly bigger than GGG.

[kafkod]

RIGHT ON QUE you JUST proved my entire point about not being able to defend Canelo and deflecting to another fighter instead!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are hopelessly pathetic!

He isn't really interested in defending Canelo, just looking for an excuse to shit on Golovkin and insult his fans.

He wouldn't have the slightest interest in either Canelo or Ward if they weren't linked to Golovkin.

[DinoCop]

2 hypes, 2 balloons; one buys the judges and fights smaller guys from A level, the other fights same size guys but D level; both never take risks; both supported by commoners.

[Tomjas]

good god, you guys certainly do talk utter **** as you give each other a reach-around.....


This actually happened, no matter how much you pretend otherwise.....





If Golovkin was a man-of-his-word, he could have fought Ward/Canelo and likely Cotto as well by now.

*Yawn*

Same ****, different day

Please reveal details of offers made by Cotto and/or Team BS to GGG

*Yawn*

[kafkod]

GTFOH, bull**** artist. You said this.....





I said this.....





So, there was NO deflection.

If Golovkin was a man-of-his-word, he could have fought Ward/Canelo and likely Cotto as well by now.

Fact: Neither Cotto nor Canelo ever offered to fight GGG at ANY weight.

Cotto wanted to fight Canelo, and was simply not interested in fighting GGG first at any weight, so paid him $800k to step aside.

Canelo asked for an interim fight after beating Cotto then handed over his belt after beating Khan using the excuse that he didn't want to negotiate to a deadline.

[casheddie]

Everyone from 154 to 168 brings up GGG, why?
Canelo is running and somehow all these C level fighters like Lara and Andrade wanna bring up GGG.
It's because he's the most interesting draw right now.
Canelo can't KO every opponent and he won't keep this up.
He's gonna sell 150k PPV's and then go to GGG trying to make a fight.