Comments Thread For: Joshua vs. Parker Could Happen Next Spring, Says Hearn

[MisterPullman]

Parker is overrated. I give him respect and he is top 10 but there is no way he can take on the top 5. He will end up unconscious on the canvas verse Joshua

[Jewish-Reptile]

I agree. I can't see Joshua facing any of the big guys until his 3 fight deal is up with showtime and he has broken the American market. There's a clear plan with this cash cow and they won't risk it. They will fight another Breazeale level opponent this year then Parker next spring. Unification next summer.

The talk of fighting Fury/Wilder this year will never happen and I knew t was BS when he said it

The problem is the casual UK fans, whilst they continue paying ppv for the likes of Bellew, Brook and Joshua to face guys like Cleverly, Frankie Gavin and Breazeale, Hearn will keep making those fights. Parker won't happen before Wilder unification with Joshua they'll likey use all three fights on the Showtime deal extending to another one for the unification all the while keeping Parker away from Joshua, and Klitschko and Fury even further away from the pair.

[Jewish-Reptile]

The great thing is that you're merely an insignificant fan sharing his view, as you do realise its pathetic to claim only casual fans want this fight, when there are fans that have followed Haye throughout his career from crusierweight, and calling them casual fans is laughable.

You're also showing your lack of understanding when it comes to boxers returing from Injury, as any fan that understands boxing knows its crucial for a fighter to slowly his work his way back into fitness and trust his punching power before you face tougher opponents.

If you're going to reply, at least be original as it sounds like you have copied and pasted your views on Haye from other posters on here and its going to be an interesting day when Haye defeats Joshua, i'll look forward to hearing your views on Haye when that happens.

Are you a part of Haye's promotional team ?

If you call selecting De Mori, Swiss Bum no one can name and Briggs as easing back in as opposed to hand selecting opponents for terrestrial television to get in hearts and minds of casuals to enhance chances of a Joshua ppv he has not shut up about since the first presser against De Mori I can't help you.

Understand this, Haye is a con man and I'm actually glad in this instance Hearn has neglected Haye's courting, shunning him for a Sky deal to help boost his profile to build a potential fight. I'm disappointed however Hearn did not sign the Fury Klitschko rematch but I understand he is milking his cow before building a Wilder unification, keeping his product out of harms way in the mean time, I'm sure Parker will have something to say about that though lol.

You stand out as a real Haye horn blower the way you got all sensitive and touchy there, you're cute. You've gotta be British right ?

[BlackRevolver]

Are you a part of Haye's promotional team ?

If you call selecting De Mori, Swiss Bum no one can name and Briggs as easing back in as opposed to hand selecting opponents for terrestrial television to get in hearts and minds of casuals to enhance chances of a Joshua ppv he has not shut up about since the first presser against De Mori I can't help you.

Understand this, Haye is a con man and I'm actually glad in this instance Hearn has neglected Haye's courting, shunning him for a Sky deal to help boost his profile to build a potential fight. I'm disappointed however Hearn did not sign the Fury Klitschko rematch but I understand he is milking his cow before building a Wilder unification, keeping his product out of harms way in the mean time, I'm sure Parker will have something to say about that though lol.

You stand out as a real Haye horn blower the way you got all sensitive and touchy there, you're cute. You've gotta be British right ?

If you regard that as being "touchy" you're showing your age as I was correcting you regarding your views of casual fans, and if you don't understand this then that isn't my problem.

All you're doing is repeating views that others have posted and believing your opinion is correct, especially with the "con man" remarks, as you simply do not understand David Haye, and that shows in your replies.

Its already been stated why Haye went for the opponents he faced, mainly to build his confidence after his long lay off and returning at a weight he has never fought at,

And again this comes back to fans not understanding that when you have had 4 years off through injury (and personal choice) it will take a year (or more) before Haye starts to face tougher opponents, and yes Haye was "calling" out Joshua. This is part of the hayemaker and his ego, as Haye (and his camp) believe he can defeat Joshua, its not about money, its about the genuine passion Haye has to be number 1 and if you spent anytime in his company or went to his training camps, you would realise he has a genuine desire to reclaim a HW belt and put right the mistakes of his previous HW stint.

[BlackRevolver]

No I totally get it. I still believe most reasonable people who look at Haye's HW resume will conclude he's massively overrated, regardless if you look at his overall HW accomplishments or his very bad recent resume.

But yea sure there will be lotsa money in fighting Haye exactly cuz he's overrated (imo obviously). And he could very well beat Joshua, cuz as I mentioned Joshua is still of unknown more than a known value & while I maybe critical of Haye I do realize he's proven far more than Joshua overall & that shouldn't be underrated if Joshua & Haye do fight anytime soon.

It depends how you define overrated, as if you judge Haye by his talents and compare him to Joshua/Fury/Wilder, are you being reasonable to suggest he doesn't belong in that class? No you aren't.

If however you're saying Haye is talented but his resume at HW doesn't match his talents, in terms of what he's capable of, then you're being fair.

Haye is in a tricky position, he's trying to rebuild his career, yet he's hungry for exposure, headlines, he craves attention and this means fans misunderstand Haye, they believe he's solely here for money, which is completely wrong.

What I will say, is that after the Briggs fight, Hayes next choice of opponent is the most important decision of his HW career, as his team/trainers are aware Haye has to face tougher opponents after proving his injuries are no longer restricting his punching power.

[AddiX]

This is actually one of the few fights I'd like to see marinate a bit.

I think both if them are still learning getting better. Could be a megafight in the future.

[BoxingFan85]

If you regard that as being "touchy" you're showing your age as I was correcting you regarding your views of casual fans, and if you don't understand this then that isn't my problem.

All you're doing is repeating views that others have posted and believing your opinion is correct, especially with the "con man" remarks, as you simply do not understand David Haye, and that shows in your replies.

Its already been stated why Haye went for the opponents he faced, mainly to build his confidence after his long lay off and returning at a weight he has never fought at,

And again this comes back to fans not understanding that when you have had 4 years off through injury (and personal choice) it will take a year (or more) before Haye starts to face tougher opponents, and yes Haye was "calling" out Joshua. This is part of the hayemaker and his ego, as Haye (and his camp) believe he can defeat Joshua, its not about money, its about the genuine passion Haye has to be number 1 and if you spent anytime in his company or went to his training camps, you would realise he has a genuine desire to reclaim a HW belt and put right the mistakes of his previous HW stint.

Don't get me wrong but if Haye needs to get back into the mix and need tuneups, he should should just that for now & call out guys when he has proved his worth after coming back.. Let's even say it was his dedication & not the alimony that made him get back in the ring..

For all the talk about Haye, his reputation isn't the one to debate as he kicked himself between legs with all the trash talk & then stinkin the joint..

I'll take you back to 09 when Haye still a nobody in HW, stalked Wlad & foul mouthed him tagging the media along whereever Wlad went he followed.. Wlad for the first time gave in to these shenanigans & gave him a title shot.. He then backed out of the fight, Injury you say? Ah ok.. Took him 2 yrs to, 1 belt, a 50/50 purse plus Wlad's media taunts for chickening the last time for him to get in the ring.. Oh my toe.. Yep, so much for 15million..
I won't even talk about Haye-Fury when poor Fury was still wasn't making much money..

They say karma is a be-yatch.. Now, Briggs is doing to Haye what Haye did to Wlad..

I always say this, if you like a fighter that's ok, don't paint him out to be a God!

[BlackRevolver]

Don't get me wrong but if Haye needs to get back into the mix and need tuneups, he should should just that for now & call out guys when he has proved his worth after coming back.. Let's even say it was his dedication & not the alimony that made him get back in the ring..

For all the talk about Haye, his reputation isn't the one to debate as he kicked himself between legs with all the trash talk & then stinkin the joint..

I'll take you back to 09 when Haye still a nobody in HW, stalked Wlad & foul mouthed him tagging the media along whereever Wlad went he followed.. Wlad for the first time gave in to these shenanigans & gave him a title shot.. He then backed out of the fight, Injury you say? Ah ok.. Took him 2 yrs to, 1 belt, a 50/50 purse plus Wlad's media taunts for chickening the last time for him to get in the ring.. Oh my toe.. Yep, so much for 15million..
I won't even talk about Haye-Fury when poor Fury was still wasn't making much money..

They say karma is a be-yatch.. Now, Briggs is doing to Haye what Haye did to Wlad..

I always say this, if you like a fighter that's ok, don't paint him out to be a God!

I understand why Haye was ridiculed claiming an injured toe hindered his performance. Haye's viewed as a loud mouth and the public (even us brits) lost respect for Haye after that fight.

However he was injured and his condition meant Haye couldn't perform to his best ability. That isn't to say Haye would have defeated Wlad, as the Wlad of "11 would defeat all current HW champions (and Haye) and this is why timing is everything in sport, as Fury faces Wlad at the right time and wins one of the most bizarre, dull, ridiculous boxing fights in history, 12 rounds of Fury/Wlad pulling faces. and now people claim Fury is a special fighter.

[BoxingFan85]

I understand why Haye was ridiculed claiming an injured toe hindered his performance. Haye's viewed as a loud mouth and the public (even us brits) lost respect for Haye after that fight.

However he was injured and his condition meant Haye couldn't perform to his best ability. That isn't to say Haye would have defeated Wlad, as the Wlad of "11 would defeat all current HW champions (and Haye) and this is why timing is everything in sport, as Fury faces Wlad at the right time and wins one of the most bizarre, dull, ridiculous boxing fights in history, 12 rounds of Fury/Wlad pulling faces. and now people claim Fury is a special fighter.

Its sad that the fight wasn't eventful.. But these days the fans judge differently.. "you are only as good as your last fight" is the mentality..
I am no Fury fan, but I believe he should get credit for the W & leave it at that..

[The plunger man]

No, his first defence won't prove anything as its against another charles martin level opponent. It will be the same result. TKO in 3 or less. AJ does need protecting from opponents with a good jab or good footwork as he has slow feet and almost no upper body movement. Parker is too short though, so he won't necessarily be the guy to prove it.

U don't know what your talking about...these are heavyweights not fleet footed welterweights ...Joshua has chased down every fighter that he has come up against and that includes fighters who have taken fury,klitchcko the distance so that pretty much buries your assessment...as for a jab who in the heavyweight division has a jab like Larry Holmes ....no one ....don't confuse Joshua with a purist boxer better you compare him to fighter that as soon he lands on you its over....btw your signature we can all pick moments from a fight where the boxer makes an error or look bad...lets analyse when fury punched himself in the face or got dropped by a cruiserweight ....newbie learn your boxing first before you reply to me again lol