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  • #21
    Originally posted by Steve plunger View Post
    Mandatory is due to start negotiations end of November ...fight planned for March or April next year....for me 10 or 11 week training camp starting just after the new year will take you into spring ....f@ck me the ***** and fury boxed 8 months ago by the time they fight in July ....and ******s are moaning on here because Joshua is gonna face Parker in less than 4 months from Novembers negotiations lol.... War Joshua
    You are missing the point mate.. We want to see AJ fight & knock these guys over.. He will get no credit for KO'ing Breazeale & thats coming from a AJ fan..
    I want him to test himself now that we know he is a level above the guys he is facing..

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Scott.Weiland. View Post
      Hearn will have Joshua postpone and avoid Parker as long as possible, he's too dangerous.

      I think we'll see Jishua and Wilder desperate to avoid Fury by facing each other in a Hearn and Haymon promotion, those two promoters appear to be doing business with nobody else except exclusive to themselves, they're trying to rig the market, Klitschko and Fury would beat both these guys with relative ease, hence why we'll never see it.
      I agree. I can't see Joshua facing any of the big guys until his 3 fight deal is up with showtime and he has broken the American market. There's a clear plan with this cash cow and they won't risk it. They will fight another Breazeale level opponent this year then Parker next spring. Unification next summer.

      The talk of fighting Fury/Wilder this year will never happen and I knew t was BS when he said it

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      • #23
        Originally posted by BoxingFan85 View Post
        You are missing the point mate.. We want to see AJ fight & knock these guys over.. He will get no credit for KO'ing Breazeale & thats coming from a AJ fan..
        I want him to test himself now that we know he is a level above the guys he is facing..
        Yeah but that was always the plan and even before he beat martin they said the opprtunity to fight him came two fights to early and didn't quite have the experience with only 15 pro fights and stated that joshua will have 1 or 2 fights with the caliber of dauphas or breazeale then they go for the big guns.....2 months ago the dinny fury fans were saying joshua will never fight parker as he's to dangerous now hearn says that fight will happen in the spring and there's still complaints lol.....look at wilder ffs since he's been champion he's faced boxers not much better than breazeale and now he's planned to fight arreiola in his 4th defence...I'm willing to give joshua the benifit of the doubt with breazeale at least....parker is considered or was considered the future star of the divison...I want to see joshua fight the to guy but when the breazeale fight was signed wilder was facing povetkin....fury vs klitchcko..Parker vs takam....be patient becaue I guarantee u after his next fight the game changes and joshua will head towards the elite....be fair becauee it's joshuas first defence and no fighter ever takes a hard voluntary defence.....joshua knocks them all out 100%

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Steve plunger View Post
          Yeah but that was always the plan and even before he beat martin they said the opprtunity to fight him came two fights to early and didn't quite have the experience with only 15 pro fights and stated that joshua will have 1 or 2 fights with the caliber of dauphas or breazeale then they go for the big guns.....2 months ago the dinny fury fans were saying joshua will never fight parker as he's to dangerous now hearn says that fight will happen in the spring and there's still complaints lol.....look at wilder ffs since he's been champion he's faced boxers not much better than breazeale and now he's planned to fight arreiola in his 4th defence...I'm willing to give joshua the benifit of the doubt with breazeale at least....parker is considered or was considered the future star of the divison...I want to see joshua fight the to guy but when the breazeale fight was signed wilder was facing povetkin....fury vs klitchcko..Parker vs takam....be patient becaue I guarantee u after his next fight the game changes and joshua will head towards the elite....be fair becauee it's joshuas first defence and no fighter ever takes a hard voluntary defence.....joshua knocks them all out 100%
          Povetkin got popped for PED, not Wilder's fault.. But Wilder fighting Arreola is Wilder's fault.. Stiverne has shown interest & was in the gym training, did not get a call instead his left overs get..
          Coming back to AJ, I think he has to face the heat for not stepping up the competition because he holds a belt.. I know he is a in progress & developing guy but it isn't his fault he won it, but it is his fault if he keeps doing a Wilder like defenses.. But I agree, it may be too early to say on his 1st defense.. But after Brazeale, if AJ fights a nobody again then I'll say Hearn is protecting him.. Knock Parker now because he too is behind in his skills than fighting him a year later when he would be definitely better than he is now..

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          • #25
            Only reason Joshua Parker fight gets delayed from spring is for a unification fight no one is going to run scared from Parker after the Takam fight

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            • #26
              Originally posted by BoxingFan85 View Post
              Povetkin got popped for PED, not Wilder's fault.. But Wilder fighting Arreola is Wilder's fault.. Stiverne has shown interest & was in the gym training, did not get a call instead his left overs get..
              Coming back to AJ, I think he has to face the heat for not stepping up the competition because he holds a belt.. I know he is a in progress & developing guy but it isn't his fault he won it, but it is his fault if he keeps doing a Wilder like defenses.. But I agree, it may be too early to say on his 1st defense.. But after Brazeale, if AJ fights a nobody again then I'll say Hearn is protecting him.. Knock Parker now because he too is behind in his skills than fighting him a year later when he would be definitely better than he is now..
              Mate joshua is not the sort of boxer that's needs protecting...after his fisrt defence then your see

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Scott.Weiland. View Post
                Not real boxing fans. This is the message David Haye is broadcasting to the casuals who tune in to watch him and don't mind paying excessive gate fees to see him face anybody from the likes of De Mori, Briggs and the other Swiss nobody he took out in a round.

                Real boxing fans want to see Joshua versus Klitschko, Wilder and Fury, Haye simply does not feature, unless youre a casual. Haye has done nothing in four years, his wins over no hopers are exactly that, he's lining up guys Briggs lined up racking up a the most number of first round stoppages, it's pathetic to hear anyone on this site clamouring for Haye vs Joshua, all I read into that is they're desperate to see Joshua knocked out or see Haye rewarded for doing nothing in the ring like he did against Klitschko.

                I have no desire to see Haye grace the ring with his flop and flee style, when public and casual demand reaches tipping point for this fight it will be a sad day for boxing.
                The great thing is that you're merely an insignificant fan sharing his view, as you do realise its pathetic to claim only casual fans want this fight, when there are fans that have followed Haye throughout his career from crusierweight, and calling them casual fans is laughable.

                You're also showing your lack of understanding when it comes to boxers returing from Injury, as any fan that understands boxing knows its crucial for a fighter to slowly his work his way back into fitness and trust his punching power before you face tougher opponents.

                If you're going to reply, at least be original as it sounds like you have copied and pasted your views on Haye from other posters on here and its going to be an interesting day when Haye defeats Joshua, i'll look forward to hearing your views on Haye when that happens.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
                  I think this is a good fight to keep Joshua moving towards better things. I don't see why he needs to be fighting Wilder or Fury right now. He's fought mostly bs guys & he's fighting better guys or allegedly better in regards to Martin anyway. And at this point Haye needs to do something to earn a fight with Joshua with his bs opponent list lately, but fair enough if Joshua wants the payday. I think Haye is one of the most overrated HW's in the sport today & while Joshua is still largely a question mark vs elite level guys & Haye has shown himself to be an elite level guy at one point, I don't think he's a elite caliber guy any longer + overall his HW resume is vastly overrated.
                  Haye is only viewed as "overrated" by some, due to his personality and the manner he carried himself when he moved up to HW, and usually its young minded fans that don't see the bigger picture as Haye is an elite HW (by todays standards), yet he has a huge task in building himself him to a point where he can challenge the big names, as they are likely to avoid him.

                  Haye has caused many of the problems which are going to be a barrier, but whats important is that Haye eases himself into HW boxing again and there are fans on here that have no understanding of the history of boxing as I can name countless champions/great fighters who have returned from injury and faced fighters of extremely low quality, slowly to regain confidence and regain fitness. What Haye is currently doing, is a tried and tested method and he is training to face the current champions. That is his goal and that is why he has returned.

                  What you also have to remember he has a big following, fans that have attended his fights, fans that have followed him from crusierweight. I bet there are some on here that have never attended a boxing match.

                  Anyway, its up to Haye to prove himself, and prove he belongs at elite level, but if you judge Haye by his talent then he is as talented as any current HW fighter, and he is also now trained by a different camp, which has helped freshen up his approach, a move which was needed after being with Adam booth for most of his career.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by BlackRevolver View Post
                    Haye is only viewed as "overrated" by some, due to his personality and the manner he carried himself when he moved up to HW, and usually its young minded fans that don't see the bigger picture as Haye is an elite HW (by todays standards), yet he has a huge task in building himself him to a point where he can challenge the big names, as they are likely to avoid him.

                    Haye has caused many of the problems which are going to be a barrier, but whats important is that Haye eases himself into HW boxing again and there are fans on here that have no understanding of the history of boxing as I can name countless champions/great fighters who have returned from injury and faced fighters of extremely low quality, slowly to regain confidence and regain fitness. What Haye is currently doing, is a tried and tested method and he is training to face the current champions. That is his goal and that is why he has returned.

                    What you also have to remember he has a big following, fans that have attended his fights, fans that have followed him from crusierweight. I bet there are some on here that have never attended a boxing match.

                    Anyway, its up to Haye to prove himself, and prove he belongs at elite level, but if you judge Haye by his talent then he is as talented as any current HW fighter, and he is also now trained by a different camp, which has helped freshen up his approach, a move which was needed after being with Adam booth for most of his career.
                    No I totally get it. I still believe most reasonable people who look at Haye's HW resume will conclude he's massively overrated, regardless if you look at his overall HW accomplishments or his very bad recent resume.

                    But yea sure there will be lotsa money in fighting Haye exactly cuz he's overrated (imo obviously). And he could very well beat Joshua, cuz as I mentioned Joshua is still of unknown more than a known value & while I maybe critical of Haye I do realize he's proven far more than Joshua overall & that shouldn't be underrated if Joshua & Haye do fight anytime soon.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by BoxingFan85 View Post




                      Well I for once don't believe everything Hearn says.. They talk about unification when AJ is still facing Breazeales of the world.. Its all about milking AJ's fan following.. I was surprised when Sky did not buy Fury-Klitschko 2, everything said & done about the last fight, it still is the biggest fight out there after May-Pac & may be Canelo-GGG...
                      Ortiz is a nice addition, but I honestly don't think he would beat Fury/Klitschko, but he will give them hell for sure.. AJ needs good 2 yrs to be at that elite level & defend it against elite..

                      Heck, Jonathan Banks was right.. When Klitschko leaves the scene people will be running after the belt like chasing chickens..
                      Wilder had good 2 yrs to accept Klitschko's offer but didn't.. Lets face it.. Klitschko still is the biggest draw in terms of numbers & rematch with Fury will determine if that stays or subsides.. I honestly think Nobody in HW can generate the numbers he does at this point..
                      No shock at all, now Joshua has a belt and a potential unification against Fury or Klitschko will be wanted by genuine boxing fans they've decided media blackout on both. Instead Joshua is signed to Showtime exclusive deal whilst The two best in division have ties to HBO fortunately no lengthily deals unlike AJ and Wilder. Take into account Fury and Klitschko are now frozen out by Hearn the casuals don't demand it, Haye has gone to terrestrial to force Hearn's hand, say what you like of Haye but he is a clever man all the while doing a cool million off each event.

                      Nothing has changed you've just got Hearn and Haymon trying to rig the game. Notice now Klitschko isn't in possession of the belts everyone wants to fight each other in eliminators now, and a clamour for the IBF due to a ppv star holding the Brit, unfortunately Hearn only appears to work with Haymon willingly, he's frozen Warren out like Haymon has frozen out GB and TR.

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