Vasyl Lomachenko Vs Yuriorkis Gamboa

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  • PivotandRoll
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    #81
    Originally posted by b0x
    Oh yeah, I came back for you. Tell me IDSAB now lol. You plum. Postol had a reach and height advantage and ya boy Bud still whooped his ass. TIMING TIMING TIMING. TC gives rounds away to get the spectacular finish, he is very fast if he needs to be.



    You told me i didn't know about boxing and there's you thinking it was a 50/50 when I said Crawford would outclass Postol and possibly even KO him. Now you know who knows and who doesn't.
    Timing? What big counter apart from the one Postol was hurt by did he time?

    Crawford looked good, Got Postol to walk to him and never got into exchanges in Postol's terms. Really was not what people are making out to be. Postol followed him straight on throwing 1.2's the whole time. I never thought Postol was amazing just doubted Crawford's ability after seeing him tagged by Lundy. I knew Crawford was smart, I said Postol was a straight up stiff guys who fights out of a strict form , from one angle and leans with his jab and Crawford used every part of that against him.

    Don't see what you accomplished apart from sitting on your ass for a few hours though

    If you wanna go call Crawford the new "Floyd" feel free, but I think Garcia's win over Khan rates higher than that at 140 tbh and a 'Floyd" would've stopped Postol. Still Crawford owns 140 now unless Broner wants to stake a claim.

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    • PivotandRoll
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      #82
      Originally posted by mathed
      Loma picks him apart and stops him.
      Really doubt it...... But fair enough I guess.

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      • elgu
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        #83
        Right now Loma wins. At 126 with a prime Gamboa I still think Loma wins, but he will have to get off the canvas to do so.

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        • PivotandRoll
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          #84
          Originally posted by b0x
          If you can't see it, you won't see it when I tell you. Timing covers all punches. Not just 'big counters'. He beat him to the jab. He thouroughly outboxed and timed him to perfection. Guys win rounds against crawford as he times them and lures them in for a finish. Postol wouldn't come in like the others though, so a big counter was rarely on the cards. He is not getting outboxed by them. I didn't call crawford the new anything, just reminding you of a few things you said that proved to be wrong...
          No. It doesn't. Reflexes do. Which is coupled with an understanding of distance to create counters. A fighter like Canelo is far superior at it, by so much it's not even funny.

          Yes, Postol was very disappointing, no head movement or ability to change angles to get close or create punching opportunities. You act as if Crawford was keeping a Shawn Porter off of him. Postol didn't want to come in, he was just trying to draw leads to counter. He could takes some lessons of Loma on how to attack less predictably, maybe watch Loma Vs Russell.

          What did I say was wrong? 2 fighters, 50/50 fight. Statistically accurate statement.

          I will admit in retrospect that I misread the styles. I thought Crawford would try to stand in front of Postol and truly outbox/beat him up(Floyd/Gatti-Ndou style) and that would play into Postol's hand. He was smarter than that.

          If he's smart he'll avoid Manny. It's a huge fight and the pay off would be big but it's a very hard fight for him if he can't hurt Manny. How do you think the Manny fight will play out?

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          • Larry the boss
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            #85
            Gamboa in his prime was damn good, but now he is to inactive and on his way down

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            • el_locoteee
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              #86
              The answer is on Loma team's decision to make the fight.

              If they try to avoid the fight there is the answer for you. His team think he will have a great chance of losing. If they go after then we don't need to speculate we will see the actual fight.

              This fight is a no brainier, HBO love Gamboa, Bob Arum have keep doing business with Gamboa even after the break up. 2 gold medalist, Gamboa probably have a bigger name recognition than even Loma.

              At 130 there is really not a bigger name to fight that Gamboa and he will take it without any problem. When you have a 140lbs unified champion saying Gamboa still toughest fight I've have there is no point to delay this fight.

              Make a build up, make then fight somebody in the same cart and then you can have the big fight next.

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              • garfios
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                #87
                Originally posted by PivotandRoll
                Lomachenko isn't taller....He's not faster..He doesn't throw as compact punches. Gamboa even has the better reflexes.

                Do you honestly believe Loma would win rounds VS Crawford?
                Or hurt him like Gamboa did to him...

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                • WherestheJabs
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                  #88
                  Loma running from both Cubans.

                  Sorry, Salido wasn't hurt once against Loma and we know what happened vs Gamboa.

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