Comments Thread For: Liam Smith Destroys Radosevic in Two; Canelo Showdown is Next?

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  • bambam182
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    #61
    Originally posted by JUNIABOY
    bambam182, changing your tune now that I explained who Martin Murray is? There's always more to learn in boxing. Be an educated boxing fan...don't follow the lemmings.
    your posts are so long, give me a bit to reply. lol kinda buzzed. ill reply later today. use this post those to attack me when i prove you wrong.

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    • CmdrSoCal
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      #62
      Boxing is GARBAGE

      Radosevic was ranked 60+ and this was a title fight? Radosevic was the best Smith had faced how sad. Now Smith will travel to the USA to personally deliver his belt to Canelo. Toilet paper belt for sale. Must sell quickly before exposed.

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      • gmc_rfc_06
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        #63
        Originally posted by JUNIABOY
        You're only assuming that GGG didn't want to fight Ward at 168. But this is a bad route to go down since none of us know what happened at that negotiation which forced K2 to walk out after 5min...& the video of GGG meeting Ward for the 1st time told me all I needed to know about GGG's intent. Most believe that the reason it wasn't made was because RocNation wasn't there to negotiate...they were there to give their terms. And Ward, an inactive Ward, was in no position to dictate terms. And it's my belief that Ward's team priced themselves out of that fight by demanding the 50/50 at 168. The reason I believe this is because K2 was more than willing to negotiate the details so long as they were fair...but if RocNation was playing hardball by never coming off their terms, then negotiations was never going to take place. You can't negotiate with a rock...hence, walking out on RocNation. This only puts more onus on Ward's team for this bout never being made. See what I did there?...I gave you my detailed reasons. You ask, "so why did he say no to ward at 168...?" To which I respond, because Ward's team was unwilling to negotiate fair terms. Be a boxing fan...don't be a lemming.
        So people aren't allowed to assume Golovkin didn't want to fight Ward because 'we don't know what happened at the negotiation table', despite it looking pretty clear.

        Yet your entire post about why the fight didn't happen is based on an assumption you have about what happened at the negotiation table?

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        • -PBP-
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          #64
          I just spent most of Saturday watching classic Ali fights. Now I to come read about current boxing news and see a that a potential Canelo vs Liam Smith fight is on the works. Smh

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          • kafkod
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            #65
            Originally posted by JUNIABOY
            You're only assuming that GGG didn't want to fight Ward at 168. But this is a bad route to go down since none of us know what happened at that negotiation which forced K2 to walk out after 5min...& the video of GGG meeting Ward for the 1st time told me all I needed to know about GGG's intent. Most believe that the reason it wasn't made was because RocNation wasn't there to negotiate...they were there to give their terms. And Ward, an inactive Ward, was in no position to dictate terms. And it's my belief that Ward's team priced themselves out of that fight by demanding the 50/50 at 168. The reason I believe this is because K2 was more than willing to negotiate the details so long as they were fair...but if RocNation was playing hardball by never coming off their terms, then negotiations was never going to take place. You can't negotiate with a rock...hence, walking out on RocNation. This only puts more onus on Ward's team for this bout never being made. See what I did there?...I gave you my detailed reasons. You ask, "so why did he say no to ward at 168...?" To which I respond, because Ward's team was unwilling to negotiate fair terms. Be a boxing fan...don't be a lemming.
            Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06
            So people aren't allowed to assume Golovkin didn't want to fight Ward because 'we don't know what happened at the negotiation table', despite it looking pretty clear.

            Yet your entire post about why the fight didn't happen is based on an assumption you have about what happened at the negotiation table?

            There was no negotiation table and no walk out by K2 after 5 mins, because no negotiations took place on the offer Roc sent to Loeffler.

            What happened was that Loeffler recieved the offer via email and responded to it by telling Roc that if Ward wanted to fight GGG at 168 for a 50/50 split he should get back to them after he'd finished his tune-ups and Golovkin had finished his business at 160.

            Golovkin already had a contract with Cotto/Canelo and the WBC covering the same time frame as the one Ward was asking him to sign. Ward wanted him to sign a contract agreeing to fight in the summer of 2016, which was the same time Golovkin was hoping to get his shot at the WBC MW belt. He couldn't go with both options at the same time!

            The meeting between GGG, Ward, and HBO took place in 2014. What happened then was that Golovkin told HBO he was ready to fight Ward, but Ward wasn't ready.

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            • M Bison
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              #66
              I think it's time that Smith and Warren give Andrade a shot at his title by his I mean Andrade's the one they unrightfully stole from Andrade and just basically gifted to Smith.

              I will respect Smith more as a person and a real champion If he fights and beats the real deal.

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              • Chrismart
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                #67
                I wouldn't be surprised to see the Smith Vs Canelo fight happen.
                I like Smith, but it would be a big miss-match.

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                • Chuckguy
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06
                  So people aren't allowed to assume Golovkin didn't want to fight Ward because 'we don't know what happened at the negotiation table', despite it looking pretty clear.

                  Yet your entire post about why the fight didn't happen is based on an assumption you have about what happened at the negotiation table?


                  Well it's pretty clear that Can'tNelo and Cotto both blatantly ducked GGG but you guys still fail to accept it

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                  • gmc_rfc_06
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Chuckguy
                    Well it's pretty clear that Can'tNelo and Cotto both blatantly ducked GGG but you guys still fail to accept it
                    If Canelo is indeed going back to 154 and not going to fight at middleweight then no.

                    If he does move up to 160 and doesn't fight Golovkin, that's a different scenario.

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                    • Roberto Vasquez
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Pigeons
                      Par of the course for these British cowards.
                      I'm British and I agree with you. They are a disgrace. BJS and Kell Brook are the biggest cowards for me at the moment. Champions in name only.

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