Comments Thread For: Freddie Roach Would Reject Floyd Mayweather Training Approach

[aboutfkntime]

just out of curiosity, but what made roach thinks floyd wants to ask him if roach can be his trainer??? did i miss something here? if my memory serves me right, floyd is still cool with his pops and uncle, so why would he wanna ask roach to train him?

They are both old/sick..... but yea, Roach aint much better.

I don't know where Roach is getting this from, Mayweather would use Nate Jones before he used Roach.

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They are both old/sick..... but yea, Roach aint much better.

I don't know where Roach is getting this from, Mayweather would use Nate Jones before he used Roach.

Roach was asked by the reporter , it was the reporters idea of question that just followed on from asking about training McGreggor , nothing from Floyd at all .

[Johnny2x2x]

The title of this article doesn't make a ton of sense. Anyway, the statement that stuck out to me the most was this statement from Roach "Mayweather knows boxing better than I do."

The other quote that stuck out was him saying how they aren't so nice to each other in front of the cameras to sell fights. I think people would be surprised at how many friends in boxing Mayweather has, he really respects boxing and almost all in boxing respect him. And trainers especially study what he does in the ring.

[Manic Shot]

The other quote that stuck out was him saying how they aren't so nice to each other in front of the cameras to sell fights. I think people would be surprised at how many friends in boxing Mayweather has, he really respects boxing and almost all in boxing respect him. And trainers especially study what he does in the ring.

Manny and Floyd are in good terms...only Flo mo and Pac tard aren't!

[BillyBoxing]

May 3, 2012
Igor Guryashkin

"Hit and don't get hit," goes the old adage in boxing. And from a statistical perspective, at least, it seems no one is better at living up to that credo than Floyd Mayweather Jr.

According to Bob Canobbio, owner and founder of CompuBox -- a computerized scoring system that counts every punch a boxer throws and lands -- Mayweather's average connect rate of 46 percent, compiled during his past nine fights (a "prime" designated by CompuBox), ranks as the best among current active fighters...

More impressive than Mayweather's own connect percentage is that of Floyd's opponents against him. They land a mere 16 percent of punches thrown, the lowest collective figure recorded in CompuBox's 4,000-fight database.

While most of boxing's cognoscenti debate who should be crowned pound-for-pound king, few would question Mayweather's dominance as the era's best defensive fighter. That's an important distinction. Because although all fighters hit as often as they're physically able, the best boxers connect often and avoid being hit too frequently.

Given that, what can we surmise about Mayweather's station using the CompuBox data? Subtract the average connect percentage of Mayweather's opponents from Mayweather's own hit rate during that designated prime, and the numbers reveal an enormous chasm between Floyd and today's other top fighters.

With a plus/minus connect percentage rating of plus-30 percent, Mayweather is at least twice as effective in the hit-and-don't-get-hit game as any of his contemporaries. Ward, who ranks fifth in Dan Rafael's March pound-for-pound rankings, is next best behind Mayweather with a plus-15 percent differential...

Statistically speaking, Mayweather clearly reigns supreme over his contemporaries. But he also stacks up very well against history's pugilistic pantheon.

CompuBox stats suggest Mayweather sits high atop a pile of fighters whose numbers were measured during their designated primes, tabulated using ringside figures and fight films. In a plus/minus comparison, greats such as Marvin Hagler (plus-17 percent) and Sugar Ray Leonard (plus-13 percent) don't come close. Roberto Duran (plus-8 percent), Thomas Hearns (plus-6 percent) and Muhammad Ali (plus-4 percent) fall short, too.

Only heavyweight great Joe Louis, at plus-26 percent, approached Mayweather's peak. And the one area, at least for this particular analysis, in which Mayweather had competition was connect percentage, where Louis and fellow former heavyweight champ Lennox Lewis edged him by 2 percent.

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...-boxing-greats

Fair point! you're bringing up heavy facts.

But numbers= quantity, doesn't reflect the quality of the punches, and Roy for exemple was a hard and vicious puncher.


Sure Floyd is one of the most dominant fighter of all time.

I thought Wlad woulda have been very well ranked with compubox numbers.

[BillyBoxing]

Here shines the double standard. Both Floyd and Roy moved up 5 divisions. Who did Roy knockout at CW or HW??? Not to mention the level of competition and the fact Roy was KO'd at a age younger than Floyd is now.

And?

So Floyd "safety first" is greater than any fighter who has been koed.

Being koed is part of boxing.

Roy got koed moving down in weight and draining his ass, he made a mistake and ruined his late career.

Yet, the man can bragg about beating prime true greats in Toney and Hopkins.
What about Floyd?

[PivotandRoll]

And?

So Floyd "safety first" is greater than any fighter who has been koed.

Being koed is part of boxing.

Roy got koed moving down in weight and draining his ass, he made a mistake and ruined his late career.

Yet, the man can bragg about beating prime true greats in Toney and Hopkins.
What about Floyd?

Did Floyd not move back down from 154 to 147?

Being Ko'd is being part of being the lesser fighter in the ring in boxing.

WHat a risk Roy took fighting John Ruiz XD lol haha

No, you are right. Floyd doesn't have wins over a green Hopkins and an out of shape James Toney....

He only beat Hernandez, Corrales, Castillo, De La Hoya, Hatton, Marquez , Cotto and Manny....But I'm sure the almighty Antonio"I use PEDS" Tarver is better than them right? Tarvers better than Pacquaio P4P right? XD what a clown

[alexguiness]

A 'boxing savant' is a good term for Floyd.

His personality is not really anywhere near as sophisticated or engaging as his skills inside the ring.

That's why he needed Haymon et al so much.

I find Floyd the person infuriating, but his skill is beyond doubt.

Even if those skills don't really manifest themselves as exciting to watch.

[BillyBoxing]

Did Floyd not move back down from 154 to 147?

Being Ko'd is being part of being the lesser fighter in the ring in boxing.

WHat a risk Roy took fighting John Ruiz XD lol haha

No, you are right. Floyd doesn't have wins over a green Hopkins and an out of shape James Toney....

He only beat Hernandez, Corrales, Castillo, De La Hoya, Hatton, Marquez , Cotto and Manny....But I'm sure the almighty Antonio"I use PEDS" Tarver is better than them right? Tarvers better than Pacquaio P4P right? XD what a clown

Not being a lesser fighter when you're shot.

Roy endend as a shot fighter due to his style and doesn't have the genetics of a Hopkins or even Floyd.