If Haymon doesn't bail out Top Rank... is Arum finished?

[PKing]

Dude is suggesting PBC isn't trying to do big things. I'm not sure what his thoughts are with what PBC's goals are so just throwing potential goals out there.

If they get 6-7 dates on HBO per year... they own 95% of US Boxing. That's pretty much NFL-LIKE dude.

I mean Arena league football exists buts it's tiny.

[Mitchell Kane]

If they get 6-7 dates on HBO per year... they own 95% of US Boxing. That's pretty much NFL-LIKE dude.

I mean Arena league football exists buts it's tiny.

That's only if the PBC gets and keeps every American network that televises boxing outside of HBO.

The time buys prety much did that in the short term, but the long term is still undecided if a network like ESPN decides to go in a different direction.

[Sweet Jones]

That's only if the PBC gets and keeps every American network that televises boxing outside of HBO.

The time buys prety much did that in the short term, but the long term is still undecided if a network like ESPN decides to go in a different direction.

Different direction with who? What promoter(s)?

[IMDAZED]

You think they got a half a billion to billion dollar bankroll (depending on who you believe) to be the next Top Rank, Golden Boy or to just get a TV deal? Seems like a lot of money to invest in just a TV deal.

"When this is all said and done, it's going to be much bigger than the UFC."

-Sam Watson

That answers nothing. UFC isn't a cable network.

[PKing]

That's only if the PBC gets and keeps every American network that televises boxing outside of HBO.

The time buys prety much did that in the short term, but the long term is still undecided if a network like ESPN decides to go in a different direction.

I'm 99.99% sure that the networks will NOT sign with another promoter. They really have no reason to do so.

Hyamon has the relationship, he has the branding, and he is building his stable bigger each month. Absolutely no reason a network would go with another promoter.

[IMDAZED]

I'm 99.99% sure that the networks will NOT sign with another promoter. They really have no reason to do so.

Hyamon has the relationship, he has the branding, and he is building his stable bigger each month. Absolutely no reason a network would go with another promoter.

I agree but you know what? Let's just let this play out. Because all I'm hearing is that either PBC will fail (networks will back out) or PBC will play Mother Theresa and help Arum and HBO by doing a complete 180 on what he's trying to accomplish. I always read Mitchell Kane's posts but just seems like wishful thinking. But only time will tell. At least most people have moved on from the ****** PBC going out of business crap that began with some dweeb on reddit.

[PKing]

I agree but you know what? Let's just let this play out. Because all I'm hearing is that either PBC will fail (networks will back out) or PBC will play Mother Theresa and help Arum and HBO by doing a complete 180 on what he's trying to accomplish. I always read Mitchell Kane's posts but just seems like wishful thinking. But only time will tell. At least most people have moved on from the ****** PBC going out of business crap that began with some dweeb on reddit.

It will definitely play out that is for damn sure.

I'm just throwing out basic logic that Haymon doesn't bail out Arum and that all the networks he's with right now will reup since PBC is bringing the biggest boxing sponsor (Corona) as well as a handful of others (by 2017) in order to ensure the networks are secured. No other promoter can do that.

[Mitchell Kane]

Different direction with who? What promoter(s)?

The PBC has been around for a year. Prior to that, ESPN worked with other promoters. Doesn't seem that hard to imagine that ESPN could go back to working with other promoters.

[PKing]

The PBC has been around for a year. Prior to that, ESPN worked with other promoters. Doesn't seem that hard to imagine that ESPN could go back to working with other promoters.

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[Mitchell Kane]

I'm 99.99% sure that the networks will NOT sign with another promoter. They really have no reason to do so.

Hyamon has the relationship, he has the branding, and he is building his stable bigger each month. Absolutely no reason a network would go with another promoter.

Why would ESPN need to sign with any promoter?

Part of the Haymon relationship with ESPN was through Brian Kweder, who is no longer at ESPN. Haymon and Kweder may still have some relationships at ESPN, but the network has had a lot of layoffs since the PBC relationship began, so I'm not sure looking in from the outside that you can say what kind of relationship still exists with ESPN.