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Originally posted by Spoon23
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Thanks Spoon ..... it was a post that he has not answered directly and honestly because if he did, he would realize that he made a mistake in that what Manny did was all possible. -
Maybe it's because you have no point. You are outgunned when NSAC says they had no proof of an injury. Pac's team also admit that they didn't tell NSAC anything, but tried to take the shot and was stopped. Give up already. This has been over.Originally posted by ADP02 View PostComment
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Let's talk about the difference between my poll and your poll.Originally posted by Spoon23 View Post
Oh that's right. You abandoned yours. Lol
Remember when my poll was 16-6 and you were gloating like a fairy. How do you like the end result, chump? You and your girlfriend failed.Comment
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You are a liar. I answered all of your bs. Now why don't you answer how swimming had nothing to do with pac, yet claim he "could have been" swimming in the ocean with a barbell in one hand. The most idiotic **** I've ever heard. You embarrassed yourself enough, clown. Time for you to bow out. This has gone on long enough and you lost. I told you that when you feel the urge to come back with more bs, go look at the poll. Everyone knows you got stomped all over that thread. I even had people giving me red K because they said that though they believe my side, they didn't like my posting style. Seems to me they didn't like how I embarrassed you. Probably felt sorry for you. Just go away.Originally posted by ADP02 View PostComment
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Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
you're the man, the myth and the legend. The king troll, himself.
We're not worthy.Comment
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Originally posted by travestyny View Post
What's embarrassing is that while I have posted several studies, people with injuries, people who did rehab while swimming. Showed you that there are different forms of swimming that could be done. Also, you do not know what Manny meant or else you would have told us. So its all speculation on your part.
The point is that you have no real evidence showing us what Manny did wrong. I asked you and you came up with nothing! You could have said "ADP02, you have a valid point" and left it at that BUT instead you keep posting with NOTHING!!! Now that is embarrassing!
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Right. Once again:Originally posted by ADP02 View PostWhat's embarrassing is that while I have posted several studies, people with injuries, people who did rehab while swimming. Showed you that there are different forms of swimming that could be done. Also, you do not know what Manny meant or else you would have told us. So its all speculation on your part.
The point is that you have no real evidence showing us what Manny did wrong. I asked you and you came up with nothing! You could have said "ADP02, you have a valid point" and left it at that BUT instead you keep posting with NOTHING!!! Now that is embarrassing!
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"I NEVER SAW A DOCTOR. I NEVER DID REHAB. ALL I DID WAS SWIM IN THE OCEAN."
From the horse's mouth.
Only in your world does "I didn't do rehab" mean "I did rehab." Only in your world does "I only swam" mean we should SPECULATE about what else he did.
Who the hell doesn't know what "ALL I DID WAS SWIM IN THE OCEAN" means??? lol. Apparently, YOU don't know what that means. Do you know how idiotic you sound?
Post some videos of this rehab in oceans. I dare you. I hope a wave doesn't hit these dudes in the shoulder. You said he had nothing to do with swimming, and now you are saying you talked about different types of swimming???? lol. Please leave me alone. It's not fun embarrassing you anymore. Your "evidence" either doesn't fit (not a full thickness rotator cuff injury) or do not explain how he was swimming in the ocean at less than 3 months or playing basketball at 3 months.
Now go cry an ocean for you to heal your ego in.Last edited by travestyny; 06-08-2016, 10:25 AM.Comment
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Originally posted by ADP02 View Post4. Sorry but that was about someone with a different set of injuries. I can do that too if you want to play that way:
a) Kevin Love had shoulder separation and ligament/labrum tearing and humeral head bone bruising as your example brought up. This guy can throw with his opposite shoulder and yes he even throws with his injured but healed shoulder way before 8 months. Said was on the basketball court even at a little over 3 months.
His rehab consisted of strengthening the rotator cuff.
BUT you can see in his videos that there is a progression in the process and a lot of it is mental.
"From surgery to At 4 months now lifting above his head and he went from not lifting weight to now lifting a ton of weight."
3:50 mark "He has been rehabbing 3.5-4 months and gets onto the basketball court ....."
b) Well here is someone who came back 10 months after surgery to play football but returned to basketball much sooner:
- "The patient returned to basketball 12 weeks after surgery"
"The patient was immobilized in an abduction sling for 4 weeks. Five weeks after surgery, he was doing well with passive range of motion. He progressed to active range of motion and started strengthening at 8 weeks. At 12 weeks, he had full active range of motion, including 100° of external rotation in 90° of abduction. He had 4+/5 subscapularis strength on bear hug testing. He completed a home exercise program focused on subscapularis strength and overall core strength and stability. He returned to basketball and had no pain during or after games. He successfully participated in tackle football 10 months postinjury without difficulty."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3658400/
c) read this guy and pretend it was Manny saying it. What would you be saying?
46 years old who said "I turned a 6 month recovery into 13 weeks": complete tear (full thickness tear) of the superspartatus tendon and bicep tendon tendon and some arthritis ....
"Mine was almost unrepairable. Like you, I healed rather quickly also. My total recovery time was 13 weeks. I turned a 6 month recovery into 13 weeks"
"Last video (7 weeks post surgery) had to go to see doctor. Doctor said not to lift anything heavier than 25lbs. do not extend arms with anything heavy.....
My injury was so bad that the surgeon almost couldn't fix it, and I turned a 6 month recovery into 13 weeks!"
"right now little strength but week 8-9, they will work on strengthening and by week 10 they will get very aggressive with strengthening"As you can read my above post, others have come back sooner than you expect for both full thickness tear or other injuries to the shoulder. While others take longer.Originally posted by travestyny View Post
Here is another one. I even left in the quote that there were anchors just so you know ..... So like I said, all I needed to do is show people that what Manny did is not impossible plus what you have is just speculation from a non-expert Floyd fan.
"I recently had arthroscopic surgery on my dominant shoulder, with the following:
1. Labrum Tear SLAP Lesion
2. Full thickness tear to supraspinatus tendon.
Procedures performed were debridement, repair of Labrum and Rotator Cuff with sutures/anchors and subacromial decompression.
My questions are: which of the 2 injuries would be considered "worse", absent the other injury and when can I expect to return to work w/o restrictions with aggressive Physical Therapy? (I am a Firefighter for a large, busy city department)"
RESPONSE: ..... both are fairly significant, require surgery for a full recovery, and have a fairly significant recovery time. [/B]
Each physician is different with protocols for returning to activities, but because of the demanding nature of your job, I would probably put your full unrestricted return somewhere around 4-6 months after surgery. If you were my patient, that would be the timeline I would be giving you."
Similar amount of time given as Kevin Love who you tried to down play because they said 4-6 months.
So I gave you not one but several examples now. Is this always the case? Nope but as Manny's doctor said, Manny had quite a few things going for him.
Right ... once again, the below proves that you do not understand the context of the response or what Manny meant by his response. It was in response to Manny not going to see his doctor and PT for rehab in LA, USA as scheduled:Originally posted by travestyny View Post
Here is a quote that explains it. Manny did self rehab and is a boxer who can handle this sort of thing:
"But Arum has nothing to worry about (regarding) my injury. I’m doing the rehab myself. I’m recovering faster than expected.”
Originally posted by travestyny View Post
So just like you quoted from the horses mouth but got that wrong, you presented a picture of Manny as evidence and got that wrong, you did it here...... speculate and then think you are right and everyone who says differently is idiotic, embarrassing and so on.
Remember that you have no evidence that Manny did anything wrong. You are just reading "swimming" and thinking that Manny was doing some kind of Olympic style training. This is getting to be embarrassing!
Explain to us all how you have nothing but are so convinced about Manny with the above post? Just like everything else, you are just counting on that Manny cannot respond to your speculation.
If Manny could, he would have told you that the picture was taken BEFORE the surgery, he did rehab but self rehab and whatever he meant by swimming and so on. Keep on hanging by this speculation with no direct evidence.
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