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  • Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View Post
    Difference is Mayweather gave them rematches, SRL wanted no part of Hearns or Duran after escaping with the W until they were older and more war torn. SRL was VERY selective on who and when he fought them, the same thing people hate on Mayweather for.

    Difference is Leonard "escaped with" 2 TKOs.

    The last time Floyd got a TKO is when he sucker punched that Ortiz weak minded guy lol

    You guys are kidding me.

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    • Originally posted by BillyBoxing View Post
      Difference is Leonard "escaped with" 2 TKOs.

      The last time Floyd got a TKO is when he sucker punched that Ortiz weak minded guy lol

      You guys are kidding me.
      Why are you bringing up TKO's? Why do Mayweathers lack of TKO's matter in this discussion?

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      • Originally posted by BillyBoxing View Post
        LOL based on?

        His terrific performances over other latino fighters? the Maidanas and Ortiz Castilloz and Baldomirs of the world? LOL

        Duran was so much of a bad ass that you can't count him out.

        Dude as a career 135 fighter had enough ressources, skills and power to be a middleweight champion, compete with Hagler, move up and beat a A+++ fighter in Leonard (maybe the greatest performance/win of all time).

        At 135 in his prime he was a complete beast and mostly lost to bigger men his whole career and would have been the best fighter Floyd ever faced (THE OPPOSITE CAN'T BE SAID).
        Actually the opposite possibly could be said. While it can be argued that some of Duran's opponents have better resumes than Floyd does, it's perfectly reasonable to argue that Floyd Mayweather is the better fighter than Leonard, Hearns, Duran, Hagler, Benitez etc. Note here that I didn't say greater fighter, I said the better fighter. I think any reasonable analysis not clouded by nostalgia would conclude that Floyd is certainly the best technical boxer Duran would have faced. Still, Duran was a technical master himself and I'd be very interested in this fight. Duran is possibly my favourite fighter but he could have it tough vs Floyd. Duran, for all his craft, could struggle against negative fighters as Benitez showed. It's a good fight. I'm not downplaying Duran here, he's possibly my all time favourite and was successful moving to Middleweight purely on account of his boxing skill. But Floyd would be the best technician he'd have faced - better than both Leonard and Benitez as far as I'm concerned technically.

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        • Mayweather must have responded: "that's ok, I wouldn't have fought you until someone had already beat you up or you were 5 years past your prime anyway Ray"

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          • Originally posted by Jsmooth9876 View Post
            Mayweather must have responded: "that's ok, I wouldn't have fought you until someone had already beat you up or you were 5 years past your prime anyway Ray"
            Ah yes, that excuse.

            The eternal Floyd Mayweather Jr, the man with no Prime according to the "historians" here.

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            • This is probably my dream matchup, prime Ray versus a prime Floyd. Two very, very intelligent fighters and I don't see a knockout here because I think Floyd can neutralize some of Ray's attack. Except Ray would neutralize Floyd's offense even more, overwhelming him in close quarters with those powerful combinations.

              I think Ray is a bit much to overcome at 147 for the smaller Floyd. The same way Floyd struggled in his first fight at 135 against not only the strongest fighter in the division but the best, he'd have an even worse time against a far, far greater fighter than Castillo in Leonard. The flip side is that Mayweather could stick and move, and not linger on the inside, to win a decision but I lean toward Ray taking over down the stretch and winning a decisive, entertaining and competitive victory.

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              • Originally posted by Razcal26 View Post
                Ah yes, that excuse.

                The eternal Floyd Mayweather Jr, the man with no Prime according to the "historians" here.
                Sorry, he fought Corrales and Castillo 15 years ago, they were really good fighters in their primes.

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                • Originally posted by Razcal26 View Post
                  Ah yes, that excuse.

                  The eternal Floyd Mayweather Jr, the man with no Prime according to the "historians" here.
                  In the interest of balance, I think it's worth noting that the criticism is a legitimate one in the case of Pacquiao, but not for anyone else. Usually it's just a criticism by Floyd haters.

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                  • Originally posted by Jsmooth9876 View Post
                    Sorry, he fought Corrales and Castillo 15 years ago, they were really good fighters in their primes.
                    Who cares about their prime? Lets talk about Floyds.

                    Floyd was ALWAYS in his prime, from 1996-2015, Floyd Mayweather Jr was ALWAYS at the peak of his abilities according to the historians here.

                    While all these other fighters have a made-up set period from fans of when they were at their best, Floyd does not have that cop-out cache.

                    The man with no prime.

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                    • Originally posted by stefl14 View Post
                      In the interest of balance, I think it's worth noting that the criticism is a legitimate one in the case of Pacquiao, but not for anyone else. Usually it's just a criticism by Floyd haters.
                      I would agree................... if people here weren't picking Manny to win.

                      When people do that, it tells me that they picked Manny regardless of him being in his prime or not, they still thought he would beat Floyd. He lost and now they try to "cop-out" with that excuse? So why pick him to win?

                      Not an excuse to me.

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