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  • #21
    So what about mayweather with his abnormal test rate ....0.86 which is physically impossible for a healthy adult 38 year old ? Is he a PED user ?
    He's 39 years old. Your testosterone is a lot lower then than when your in your early twenties.

    And yes, when Mayweather was fighting Manny Pacquiao last year, they went to his house to drug test him after the fight and found him using an IV infusion. It was pretty obvious that he was trying to dilute his blood to make the tests show up wrong. There's no other reason you would use an IV solution than trying to pass a drugs test or if you have a serious medical illness.

    And about the Olympic testing. Sorry, I forgot all about Marian Jones? Remember the girl who destroyed all the other woman at the Olympics and won three gold medals? Then people accused her of cheating and the drug testing agencies said she had passed all the tests completely. She later admitted she had been using PEDs and steroids her whole career and she had been an athlete for over ten years. They would not have found her if she hadn't of felt guilty and admitted that she had been cheating.

    Funny thing is, even with cheating she only got 10.6 in the 100M, so Usian Bolt beat her by a whole second. But sure he's natural so it's all good, right?

    If a woman can go ten years without testing positive when she's using male hormones in the Olympics and you think the Olympics is clean and legit, then you sir are a fool.

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    • #22
      He doesn't get a lot of hate. He barely gets any considering how hyped he is.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by motivational View Post
        Did you actually say Olympic drug testing was the best in the world? You're clearly extremely ignorant and have no idea what you're talking about.

        They allow you to have a 4:1 testosterone to epitestosterone range at the olympics before they say that classify you as using PEDs. A normal male will very rarely have over a 1:1 range and extremely rare to have a 2:1. It's not naturally possible to have more than this. So why do they allow you to have 3-4? It's about money. Usian Bolt will never be caught because of his sponsers and brand names.

        If they wanted to see if an athlete was really doping, they'd do a carbon isotope ratio test and it would show if any synthetic hormones were in the body since they have isotope from natural hormones but in that case, the majority of olympic athletes would be caught and that would never happen.

        Do you seriouly think that Usian Bolt can run faster naturally than anyone else on the planet can if they use PEDs? Very few people would even get close to breaking the 10 second mark.

        You do know that he outweighs Arnold? One of the best bodybuilders of all time? I know he's a lot taller but there's no way that anyone naturally can get close to someone like Arnold who abused steroids.

        Honestly, ask yourself. If he's not using anything now, what would he look like on steroids? He's literally carrying so much mass right now that if he gains anymore, it will seriously affect his fitness. The human body was not made to be that size nor carry that much muscle and it simply isn't possibly naturally. I have been training in the gym specifically for size for close to ten years now and I'm not even close to the pure mass or definition that Joshua has. I promise you, it's not even close to possible naturally and as I said, you have no idea what you're talking about.

        And I know Tyson trolls a lot but he speaks the truth at times, it's pretty obvious when he's trolling and when he's not.

        Keep believing your fantasies where the NFL and MLB is all natural and nobody cheats.
        I think we can pretty much guarantee that if usain is taking them then pretty much every single athlete in his even are taking them...and then that go's across the whole spectrum of the olympics which means there would be no olympics ....so where do we start...as for boxers .... Mayweather has shown to be suspect with allegedly 2 failed drug tests and his low testorone levels , Roy Jones , James toney and even look at Evander Holyfield ( Evan fields ) but the fact is as i have said many times the British boxing board of control have a far greater control in place than America has......and you mention Arnie ffs...he was 6ft 2 and 245 lbs and full of water retention ....Joshua is 6ft 6 1/2 a trained athlete and 245lbs ...
        America is the land of the cheat...uk we have tighter rules
        http://boxing.about.com/od/Boxing/fl...-In-Boxing.htm

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        • #24
          I think we can pretty much guarantee that if usain is taking them then pretty much every single athlete in his even are taking them...and then that go's across the whole spectrum of the olympics which means there would be no olympics ....so where do we start...as for boxers .... Mayweather has shown to be suspect with allegedly 2 failed drug tests and his low testorone levels , Roy Jones , James toney and even look at Evander Holyfield ( Evan fields ) but the fact is as i have said many times the British boxing board of control have a far greater control in place than America has......and you mention Arnie ffs...he was 6ft 2 and 245 lbs and full of water retention ....Joshua is 6ft 6 1/2 a trained athlete and 245lbs ...
          America is the land of the cheat...uk we have tighter rules
          Yes. There's a study that shows that of the top five fastest males with 100M sprint time, four of them have tested positive for PEDs atleast once in their career. And guess who's the only one that hasn't tested positive? Bolt. So if you still believe in miracles and that Bolt can beat four people who have used gear before then believe away (There's a photo with a table and all the athletes who've tested positive but I can't link it yet due to my post count)

          You're contradicting yourself with the arnie statement BTW, Water retention is just added water weight that does nothing. Which makes it seem as Arnold is less muscular than he really is but in reality Arnold has virtually no water retention, why would you want extra water weight as a bodybuilder? The full look that his muscles have is one of the effects from the specific steroids he used (I wont name them) Which further supports my statement that Anthony Joshua has a ridiculous amount of muscle as a natural athlete.

          What you were saying about British drug testing being cleaner, did you not hear about the article written by the Telegraph and all over the news about the Doctor giving tons of steroids and PEDs to British athletes who didn't need them and specifically for sporting uses.

          The Sunday Times claimed anti-ageing specialist Mark Bonar had been secretly filmed also confessing to supplying banned substances such as erythropoietin (EPO), steroids and human growth hormone to British Tour de France cyclists and a British boxing champion.
          a British boxing champion
          Ring any bells mate?

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          • #25
            I don't think it is 'hate'.

            People resent the fact that Joshua has benefited hugely from a massive PR / hype campaign without actually really proving much in the ring.

            He also has no real personality - he is fed scripts by Matchroom which comes across very manufactured and dull.

            In addition, he is not a 'natural' boxer inasmuch that he is an athlete who learned to box, in much the same way Wilder did.

            Finally is probably on a huge stack of roids.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by motivational View Post
              He's 39 years old. Your testosterone is a lot lower then than when your in your early twenties.

              And yes, when Mayweather was fighting Manny Pacquiao last year, they went to his house to drug test him after the fight and found him using an IV infusion. It was pretty obvious that he was trying to dilute his blood to make the tests show up wrong. There's no other reason you would use an IV solution than trying to pass a drugs test or if you have a serious medical illness.

              And about the Olympic testing. Sorry, I forgot all about Marian Jones? Remember the girl who destroyed all the other woman at the Olympics and won three gold medals? Then people accused her of cheating and the drug testing agencies said she had passed all the tests completely. She later admitted she had been using PEDs and steroids her whole career and she had been an athlete for over ten years. They would not have found her if she hadn't of felt guilty and admitted that she had been cheating.

              Funny thing is, even with cheating she only got 10.6 in the 100M, so Usian Bolt beat her by a whole second. But sure he's natural so it's all good, right?

              If a woman can go ten years without testing positive when she's using male hormones in the Olympics and you think the Olympics is clean and legit, then you sir are a fool.
              Look it's common knowledge about Marion Jones that she was a PED user.....even her husband was giving them to her and that's why she pretty much quit instantaneous and got of the scene all together ....u throwing accusations at Joshua is still unfounded and if he is passing the tests that are mandatory by the BBBC then he's a clean athlete and will remain that way till the time he gets caught ......innocent until proven guilty has always been the case and it's not gonna change just because Joshua looks to have a ripped physique ....the self proclaimed TBE was caught twice but his tests were not reported and his b samples were never tested ....if he's doing it who else is doing it....probably almost everybody else if you want to look at it that way

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              • #27
                Originally posted by motivational View Post
                Yes. There's a study that shows that of the top five fastest males with 100M sprint time, four of them have tested positive for PEDs atleast once in their career. And guess who's the only one that hasn't tested positive? Bolt. So if you still believe in miracles and that Bolt can beat four people who have used gear before then believe away (There's a photo with a table and all the athletes who've tested positive but I can't link it yet due to my post count)

                You're contradicting yourself with the arnie statement BTW, Water retention is just added water weight that does nothing. Which makes it seem as Arnold is less muscular than he really is but in reality Arnold has virtually no water retention, why would you want extra water weight as a bodybuilder? The full look that his muscles have is one of the effects from the specific steroids he used (I wont name them) Which further supports my statement that Anthony Joshua has a ridiculous amount of muscle as a natural athlete.

                What you were saying about British drug testing being cleaner, did you not hear about the article written by the Telegraph and all over the news about the Doctor giving tons of steroids and PEDs to British athletes who didn't need them and specifically for sporting uses.





                Ring any bells mate?
                Most guys walking around at over 6ft 6 will weigh in the region of 18 stone if there of big build...come on Arnie is 6ft 2 Ffs he's a dwarf compared with the Joshuas or klitchckos of this world...these are solid built athletes who are made of teak...listen I boxed for a lot of years ...my mate is body builder...big fella muscles out of his ears....one liver shot and he's doubled over from me I know because I did it one time...it's different kind of build and muscles......there are lots of British champions in boxing so why does it have to be Joshua who's the guilty party....as I said untill he's shown to be taking them and he's caught I'm not gonna condemn him for it

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                • #28
                  Joshua gets way less hate than most, but basically every successful boxer build up haters as they go. Boxing fans, at least the ones that congregate here are some of the worst around really.

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                  • #29
                    Most guys walking around at over 6ft 6 will weigh in the region of 18 stone if there of big build...come on Arnie is 6ft 2 Ffs he's a dwarf compared with the Joshuas or klitchckos of this world...these are solid built athletes who are made of teak...listen I boxed for a lot of years ...my mate is body builder...big fella muscles out of his ears....one liver shot and he's doubled over from me I know because I did it one time...it's different kind of build and muscles......there are lots of British champions in boxing so why does it have to be Joshua who's the guilty party....as I said untill he's shown to be taking them and he's caught I'm not gonna condemn him for it
                    Of course, I'm not asking for an Anthony Joshua witchhunt or anything lol

                    I'm simply stating why some people such as myself dislike (or hate) Anthony Joshua because it's pretty obvious that he's using gear by his physique. I know Arnold is a lot shorter than Anthony Joshua but seriously.. Arnold was probably using 10-20 times the hormones of a normal man, it's just ridiculous to claim that Anthony Joshua is that size naturally. There's some people who are genitically gifted who could get close but we're talking 15-20 years of work. Not something that you have in your early twenties.

                    And of course, if your mate's a bodybuilder and you're a boxer you're going to be able to wreck him. Bodybuilding is a terrible build for boxing, you need fat to surround your organs otherwise what you said will happen. You also need to know how to take a punch.

                    I don't hate Joshua, hell I'd love to be in his position but I think it's ridiculously unfair for someone fighting him. You're basically going into the ring with the intention of hurting the other person so bad that they can't continue to fight you and it's a risk to anyone's life to fight someone who's using PEDs. They hit harder, faster and they last longer.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by motivational View Post
                      Let's put it another way. He's 6 ft 6, 106 kg at 26 years old and about 6-8 percent bodyfat. He was also kicked out of the Olympic team for possession of drugs. Anyone who has any decent knowledge of sports and bodybuilding can see he is clearly using steroids. The human body is not designed to be that size and muscular and it's simply not possible naturally. Find me one boxer before the 1980s with anywhere near that level of muscularity and size at 6'6. It's simply not possible.

                      Tyson Fury even said when he saw Anthony Joshua, he looked like a pumped up bodybuilder full of steroids.
                      You are a scumbag, because he uses weights on Steroids, How old you by the way, you dont have knowledge, so let me guess he has somebody taking his drug test since the Olympices and Eddy Hearns pays Vada to keep quiet

                      YOU STILL BELIVE TUPAC IS ALIVE AS WELL

                      Must be &:gay:

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