Who's the greatest white heavyweight boxer of all time?

[Mr. Ryan]

Rocky Marciano is the greatest white fighter of all time, followed closely by Benny Leonard.

[Abe Attell]

Weren't we talking about "Heavyweights" ?

because if it is open to all weight classes, P4P, Marciano is not the best, especially when you compare his resume with others.

[Abe Attell]

Gene Tunney was interviewed once and tunney said that when he fought Dempsey, he had the feeling that Dempsey wanted to kill him, and he never felt that way against any other opponent according to Tunney.

Well Tunney was lucky he fought a Dempsey that wasn't in his prime.

[Mr. Ryan]

Well Tunney was lucky he fought a Dempsey that wasn't in his prime.

Dempsey was inactive for 3 years I believe. That's Dempsey's fault though, he openly avoided many challengers.

[Kid Achilles]

Whether his fault or not, he was not a prime Dempsey when he fought Tunney.

[Abe Attell]

Dempsey was inactive for 3 years I believe. That's Dempsey's fault though, he openly avoided many challengers.

Agree, it is his fault, but if you had to choose from getting beaver from Hollywood actresses, making a lot of money doing promotional work, etc. or boxing, which would you pick?

[King Koyle]

Here's a picture of Dempsey Sparring with Bill Tate. As you can see, even his facial expression shows that he was a crazed maniac in the ring, and that he had pure killer instinct.
[IMG]http://i24.***********.com/albums/c49/IrishInsomniac00/Jack%20Dempsey/55Dec.jpg[/IMG]

However, Marciano against Roland LaStarza has a serious look, but it doesn't look half as mean as Dempsey's expression.






So as you can see, Dempsey is the more ferocious fighter, since Marciano just wants to knock you out, while Dempsey wants to kill you!

Enough said.

I gotta tell ya,im still not convinced because of facial expressions in a couple of pictures

[Mr. Ryan]

Agree, it is his fault, but if you had to choose from getting beaver from Hollywood actresses, making a lot of money doing promotional work, etc. or boxing, which would you pick?

Smoking weed.

[K-DOGG]

Here's a picture of Dempsey Sparring with Bill Tate. As you can see, even his facial expression shows that he was a crazed maniac in the ring, and that he had pure killer instinct.
[IMG]http://i24.***********.com/albums/c49/IrishInsomniac00/Jack%20Dempsey/55Dec.jpg[/IMG]

However, Marciano against Roland LaStarza has a serious look, but it doesn't look half as mean as Dempsey's expression.






So as you can see, Dempsey is the more ferocious fighter, since Marciano just wants to knock you out, while Dempsey wants to kill you!

Enough said.

Why butterfly....I didn't know you were a student of human psychology.

However, concerning their personality and intent, I agree with you. Very nice.

[Mr. Ryan]

Why butterfly....I didn't know you were a student of human psychology.

However, concerning their personality and intent, I agree with you. Very nice.

Dempsey had this sort of vendetta and inability to cope with the changing ways of the bourgeois 1920's post war America that made him as sort of an animal. He was mean, he was morally corrupt, and he was a genuinely vicious guy.

Marciano wasn't an angry man, he was as happy go lucky as they come. Marciano had a positive disposition as a man, he didn't want to kill people like Dempsey. Good **** Butterfly.