Who's the greatest white heavyweight boxer of all time?

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  • Southpaw Stinger
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    #101
    I'd say Dempsey was the best white heavyweight, he was a champ both in and out of the ring and carried the sport into a modern era, as well as kicking ass in the ring!

    He's followed by the likes of Marciano, VK, Quarry, Bugner, Cooney, Cooper etc.

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    • The Raging Bull
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      #102
      Originally posted by butterfly1964
      Jack Dempsey ko4 Rocky Marciano
      If this fight ever happened, I doubt that the Manassa mauler would KO Rocky. His chin was made out of cast iron.

      I feel it would be stopped on cuts in the later rounds, with Dempsey winning, or Dempsey would win by UD.

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        #103
        If this fight ever happened, I doubt that the Manassa mauler would KO Rocky. His chin was made out of cast iron.
        Marciano had a solid chin, but was it ever tested against a real puncher?

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        • TheHoff'sGhost
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          #104
          Originally posted by Southpaw Stinger
          Marciano had a solid chin, but was it ever tested against a real puncher?
          nope the stories of marcianos chin are slightly over the top

          id say shavers and forweman would have hurt him and dempsey too

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          • King Koyle
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            #105
            Definetly Marciano!There's only a few heavyweights(black or white) that I would rank above him.Those HW's being Ali,Louis,Johnson,& possibly Foreman.
            Last edited by King Koyle; 11-13-2006, 09:55 AM. Reason: looked shitty

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            • butterfly1964
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              #106
              Originally posted by The Raging Bull
              If this fight ever happened, I doubt that the Manassa mauler would KO Rocky. His chin was made out of cast iron.

              I feel it would be stopped on cuts in the later rounds, with Dempsey winning, or Dempsey would win by UD.
              Dempsey was a fast starter. Marciano a notoriously slow starter, plus he was rocked and dropped by Walcott and Moore, that equates to Dempsey jumpimg all over him early in the fight and getting the job done quick.

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              • The Raging Bull
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                #107
                Originally posted by Southpaw Stinger
                Marciano had a solid chin, but was it ever tested against a real puncher?
                He never really fought any outstanding punchers, but Louis still had a lot of sting in his punches and Jersey Joe wasn't exactly featherfisted. He tended to get himself into a lot of wars too, and survived them all. But it could be said that it was his heart and courage pulling him through then and not his chin. It's all down to opinion and 'what if's' to be honest.

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                • butterfly1964
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by Mass Pride
                  Definetly Marciano!The only heavyweights I rank above him are Louis,Ali,Johnson,and possibly Foreman.
                  Dempsey was better. He was faster. He was a better puncher. He was more smooth in his movement. He could get in and out of range in a hurry. He had a long reach to keep opponents away. He had a better defense, and he had a better killer instinct.

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                  • butterfly1964
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by The Raging Bull
                    He never really fought any outstanding punchers, but Louis still had a lot of sting in his punches and Jersey Joe wasn't exactly featherfisted. He tended to get himself into a lot of wars too, and survived them all. But it could be said that it was his heart and courage pulling him through then and not his chin. It's all down to opinion and 'what if's' to be honest.
                    Marciano didn't fight antybody that took his opponents out as quickly as dempsey did. Actually, I can't think of anyone besides Tyson who could knock his opponents out quicker than Jack Dempsey did. Marciano's plan was to weather the storm and go to the later rounds because of his superior stamina. Louis wasn't someone who went after his opponent and tried to take them out early. Walcott is an overrated puncher and his power is not in the class of Dempsey by any means. Marciano is very vulnerable in the early rounds, and that's when Dempsey is the most dangerous. Dempsey would really put a hurt on Marciano.

                    Dempsey in 4.

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                    • King Koyle
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by butterfly1964
                      Dempsey was better. He was faster. He was a better puncher. He was more smooth in his movement. He could get in and out of range in a hurry. He had a long reach to keep opponents away. He had a better defense, and he had a better killer instinct.
                      That's your opinion.Although I agree with most of it except for the killer instinct part.None the less I still rank Marciano over Dempsey whether or not Jack was more skilled.If I was ranking purely on skill than Marciano would not be near the top of my list.His heart,chin,power,and yes killer instinct was what made him great.

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