Golovkin aint no thing, James Toney would schooled his ass

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  • -Antonio-
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    #41
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
    Is there ever an instance where Toney was focused and wasn't weight drained?

    Also, neither Griffin fights were robberies.
    He always fought to the level of his opponent anyway, but there were some cases like the Thadzi and Tiberi fights where he showed a complete lack of respect for his opponent. I think for the most part against guys like McCollum, Nunn, Griffin, Barkley, Littles, Johnson he was at his best.

    Look that's the reason why Toney doesn't live up to being an ATG even though I'm a huge fan. All he did was spar and cut weight. He probably never ate a healthy diet or had a real training routine. He should have been so much more than what he was. Still in this fantasy fight stuff you have to suspend belief and imagine Toney would have treated GGG like he did McCollum, Nunn, Jirov, etc.

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    • IronDanHamza
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      #42
      Originally posted by -Antonio-
      What do you qualify as a great performance then? Toney had started to land hard punches on Nunn for a few rounds before the KO. It wasn't just him being destroyed and a lucky punch.

      Iran Barkley was a masterpiece in counter punching.

      Knocked Prince Charles out ****** even if he was nearing the end.

      In what world is the Jirov win not a great performance? Does a guy need to win by a landslide for you to be impressed?
      Nunn was miles ahead. Great comeback win but hardly a great performance.

      Prince Charles was a great performance...against a half decent opponent.

      Well performance wise I don't consider a competitive back and forth war to be a great "performance"

      Doesn't need to be a landslide no, just needs to be fairly dominant atleast.

      Toney didn't beat any top level opponents in dominant fashion though.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Freedom2016
        GGG would have been the first one to stop Toney IF not stop him he would have embarrassed him throughout 12 rounds.
        James Toney is easily one of the most overrated, undedicated boxers of all time there is little EXTREMELY little to suggest that Toney would have done anything to GGG but there is a hell of a lot more evidence which would say Golovkin would have made easy work with him.

        Have we ever seen GGG struggle to beat someone like Dave Tiberi, Sanderine Williams or Mike McCallum.

        James Toney would have got schooled time to take your American Bold Eagle sunglasses off smell some reality.

        Mike McCallum would ko GGG within 5 rounds...

        You said it yourself Toney is undedicated, that's why he's looked bad at
        times.
        So tell me What's GGG's excuse for looking like **** all the time????
        This dude has to go through some thrilla in manilla type **** to beat
        the likes of Martin Murray and the ghost of Kassim Ouma...

        I'm a GGG fan and I think it's criminal the way he's being avoided...
        And he's CLEARLY the best middleweight in the world...
        But his punch power and skill set are nowhere near as good as people like you seem to believe. He's to small, to weak and to light handed to trouble someone like Toney


        Can you imagine GGG goin up in weight and beating a guy like Jirov then
        stopping Holyfield???
        No me neither....

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          #44
          Originally posted by -Antonio-
          What do you qualify as a great performance then? Toney had started to land hard punches on Nunn for a few rounds before the KO. It wasn't just him being destroyed and a lucky punch.

          Iran Barkley was a masterpiece in counter punching.

          Knocked Prince Charles out ****** even if he was nearing the end.

          In what world is the Jirov win not a great performance? Does a guy need to win by a landslide for you to be impressed?
          look at who GGG fought...thats all you need to know....dude is biased.



          Toney fought from 160-heavy and this guy is a monster but wont move up one time

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            #45
            Originally posted by lightsout_finit
            Mike McCallum would ko GGG within 5 rounds...

            You said it yourself Toney is undedicated, that's why he's looked bad at
            times.
            So tell me What's GGG's excuse for looking like **** all the time????
            This dude has to go through some thrilla in manilla type **** to beat
            the likes of Martin Murray and the ghost of Kassim Ouma...

            I'm a GGG fan and I think it's criminal the way he's being avoided...
            And he's CLEARLY the best middleweight in the world...
            But his punch power and skill set are nowhere near as good as people like you seem to believe. He's to small, to weak and to light handed to trouble someone like Toney


            Can you imagine GGG goin up in weight and beating a guy like Jirov then
            stopping Holyfield???
            No me neither....
            GGG has dedication to his craft he doesn't like eating bacon rolls and donuts religiously like James Toney does so him moving up to heavyweight wouldn't be the problem.
            Do you really think JT wanted to fight at those weights each and every time he moved up he looked like **** fat, slow and lethargic.

            GGG has looked impressive in every fight he has been in but apparently giving Martin Murray his first ever KO loss isn't impressive... hmmm okay then lol but beating an old past his best Mike McCallum is?
            Nostalgia fanboys don't know **** you just love to live in your fake little world because you know it could never be contested its also another thing to say thank god GGG wont ever reach the heights of JT losing to guys like Gavern and being made a laughing stock world wide thanks to Randy Couture

            Imwbhahwbahwba imabwh beat Couture bwhabd de small gloves... Knwalk out
            [IMG]http://i890.***********.com/albums/ac105/dbma4eva/ufc118/UFC118-CoutureXToney-2-sg.gif[/IMG]

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              #46
              Originally posted by Freedom2016
              GGG would have been the first one to stop Toney IF not stop him he would have embarrassed him throughout 12 rounds.
              James Toney is easily one of the most overrated, undedicated boxers of all time there is little EXTREMELY little to suggest that Toney would have done anything to GGG but there is a hell of a lot more evidence which would say Golovkin would have made easy work with him.

              Have we ever seen GGG struggle to beat someone like Dave Tiberi, Sanderine Williams or Mike McCallum.

              James Toney would have got schooled time to take your American Bold Eagle sunglasses off smell some reality.
              Lol what an idiot you are. Mike McCallum would probably beat triple G you cretin. Yeah, Toney had off nights he was one of them fighters but he'd step it up against the best, same as he would against a top fighter like GGG. Stylistically I favor Toney in this one. Saying GGG would stop Toney is simply ****** though. The guy was a blown up middleweight who's chin stood up at heavy vs the likes of Sam Peter ffs. He isn't getting stopped.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Freedom2016
                Lmao why doesn't the video show the numerous fights he looked terrible in?
                We gonna pretend every guy he fought and struggled against were ATG... Yeah Samuel Peters the best of all time... smh

                [IMG]https://media.*****.com/media/7OQB4BdBuFHj2/*****.gif[/IMG]

                Smh getting his ass knocked down by a jab, you all are biased as fuq If you think GGG loses to this dude gotta be blind or just hopeful that your American past were all they were said out to be.
                So your evidence is Toney, a fat middleweight, who's chin was more than fine at heavyweight. If Toney's chin was fine against Peter, I don't think he'd have too many issues taking shots from GGG to be honest. Put GGG in now against a prime Sam Peter, what do you think happens?

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by stefl14
                  Lol what an idiot you are. Mike McCallum would probably beat triple G you cretin. Yeah, Toney had off nights he was one of them fighters but he'd step it up against the best, same as he would against a top fighter like GGG. Stylistically I favor Toney in this one. Saying GGG would stop Toney is simply ****** though. The guy was a blown up middleweight who's chin stood up at heavy vs the likes of Sam Peter ffs. He isn't getting stopped.
                  Lmfao nostalgia fantards really need to pull their head out of their asses what an absolute utter melt you are.
                  Time to wake up from your induced coma the 80s are over you mong.
                  Yes and GGG vs Ishida he KO's a guy who has fought at much heavier weight classes and Golovkin is the only one to KO him bbbut bbut but because Samuel Peter can't do it omg Golovkin surely can't do it?
                  Wtf are you even smoking you ****** Peters hurt and dropped James Toneys fat ass with a jab lmao.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by stefl14
                    So your evidence is Toney, a fat middleweight, who's chin was more than fine at heavyweight. If Toney's chin was fine against Peter, I don't think he'd have too many issues taking shots from GGG to be honest. Put GGG in now against a prime Sam Peter, what do you think happens?
                    "Prime Sam Peters"
                    See this is what I mean about the Nostalgia overload
                    Wladimir had already beat Samuel Peter by the time James actually fought him and still to this day delusional Toney fanboys think he won both fights.

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                    • stefl14
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Freedom2016
                      Lmfao nostalgia fantards really need to pull their head out of their asses what an absolute utter melt you are.
                      Time to wake up from your induced coma the 80s are over you mong.
                      Yes and GGG vs Ishida he KO's a guy who has fought at much heavier weight classes and Golovkin is the only one to KO him bbbut bbut but because Samuel Peter can't do it omg Golovkin surely can't do it?
                      Wtf are you even smoking you ****** Peters hurt and dropped James Toneys fat ass with a jab lmao.
                      Put Golovkin in against Peter and he gets stopped in 1. Nostalgia? I'm 22 years old you cretin I just call **** like I see it. Golovkin hasn't fought anyone, partly because his division is garbage, partly because of cowards like canelo but also partly because he ducked Ward. Bet you've never been in a boxing ring you idiot.

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