The Final Verdict: Did Pac Have a Full Thickness Rotator Cuff Tear?

[travestyny]

3) If Manny had a partially torn rotator cuff, Manny could have fought again in 2015 and they could have struck a deal with Floyd.

What kind of ******ed logic is this?

1. Floyd already stated he wasn't going to fight Pac because Pac gave that bull**** excuse instead of giving him credit.

2. How would they fight again in 2015 when their team already stated it was a full-thickness injury and the timeframe for the return. Do you think Arum, who was so upset Manny didn't go to rehab, would have gone that route? Come on, man. This is getting embarrassing.

4) The doctor is not just any doctor. He is a renowned so called super doctor that has no shortage of work any time soon. He is associated with multiple professional teams.

What would lying do except have him worry that the lie would eventually come out and his reputation would go south quickly!!!

If you do not think it can come out, there are multiple people who are aware of the truth. Even MRIs were taken by other doctors. I'm sure that the NSAC has a copy of Manny's health just so he can get a license to fight against Bradley.


THINK: This doctor is a surgeon who performed an operation on Manny. Before this injury, its possible that Manny never met the doctor before or only a few times due to other real injuries!!! THat is different than a no name doctor or a doctor that hangs around a cycling team all day prescribing them PEDs that nobody knows about until they get caught. THose are 2 different worlds apart.
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Translation: Doctors lie, but not Manny's doctor. lol. I posted how many direct quotations from you about doctors lying, and then you turn around and say, "But this doctor wouldn't lie."

Man, you are dismissed. This has gone on long enough and I don't need to keep embarrassing you. It's over.

[travestyny]

This is how I know I've proven my case. You now want to attack the main purpose of this thread, that it's not believable that he had a full-thickness tear. Let's just leave this here as a reminder of what you've done:

After proving to ADP02 that the doctor claimed the injury was a full-thickness tear:

i did not understand the severity. so manny had a severe injury! So manny fought with basically one arm!

this really diminished what floyd did even if you had him winning the fight but that is another topic.

After ADP02 getting wrecked in this thread:

Does it really matter if Manny had a partially torn or fully torn rotator cuff?

Not really .

That's why this is over. Now you try to say "even if you're right, it doesn't matter," but it sure as hell mattered to you before!!!

DONE!


Yo Manny:

[aboutfkntime]

Dis thread..... still going strong LMAO

Is the funniest quote still Pac..... ?


Critics Cry “Fake” At Manny Pacquiao’s “Miraculous” Recovery.....

“I’m fine. It’s God’s work. I never saw a doctor. I never did rehab. All I did was to swim in the sea as often as I could. The salt water healed my wound.”
http://boxingbuzz.sportsblog.com/pos...-recovery.html


You can't make that **** up LMAO

[aboutfkntime]

I hereby swear under penalty of perjury..... LMAO

[ADP02]

hahahahaha. I'm going to expose you again buddy!!! You ready?

Do you remember saying this after not knowing the extent of the injury and having me prove to you that it was stated as a full-thickness rotator cuff tear when i posted the video of his doctor???:




hahahahaha. So which is it buddy? Does it matter....apparently not when it doesn't fit your agenda.

Stop deflecting. Stop hiding. Stop lying!!!

Man, now I know why you are having problems with this. You blow things way out of proportion.

This is sounding more and more as you and some Floyd fans not looking to find the truth but just hating that it will end up being an empty win for Floyd. 5 years too late plus a fighter who was fighting with one arm!

Of course I remember that. I have been saying that ever since you told me its a full thickness tear. And?

Look, if it was a lie, why not stop at full thickness tear? The doctor explained that there was a full thickness tear and a partial tear. He even explained to which part of the shoulder.


The point:
If Manny had a partial tear or a full thickness tear or both, its still an injury that can be used to say that you fought an injured fighter. That is what I mean. Not hard to understand. And with a partial tear, Manny could come back in 2015 and fight Floyd. Again, it would be a win win for Manny because at the end of the day, that is what he wanted. To fight Floyd again.
Instead with a full thickness tear, he couldn't rematch Floyd ..... Yet you think this was better for Manny(full thickness tear )? Weird logic!

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[ADP02]

What kind of ******ed logic is this?

1. Floyd already stated he wasn't going to fight Pac because Pac gave that bull**** excuse instead of giving him credit.

2. How would they fight again in 2015 when their team already stated it was a full-thickness injury and the timeframe for the return. Do you think Arum, who was so upset Manny didn't go to rehab, would have gone that route? Come on, man. This is getting embarrassing.



Translation: Doctors lie, but not Manny's doctor. lol. I posted how many direct quotations from you about doctors lying, and then you turn around and say, "But this doctor wouldn't lie."

Man, you are dismissed. This has gone on long enough and I don't need to keep embarrassing you. It's over.

1. Floyd also said that he would then said he wouldn't. Kinda like how that saga has been since the start. Floyd would have changed his mind as soon as he heard that Manny can fight in 2015. More money.

2. WOW, that is my point. Go read it again. I'm saying that to say its a full thickness tear would kill a chance at a rematch. So why lie??? It would have been better to say that its a partial tear that would heal in a month. You know, just like Floyd did against Castillo!!!


Look bud. Anyone can lie. I'm trying to make it simple for you to understand that it would make little sense to lie The doctor had more to lose than gain from a lie like that. It can kill his reputation badly. Not hard to understand!



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[ADP02]

What does this thread have to do with floyd mayweather? So floyd threw more punches against a pressure fighter than pac did against a guy who had a reach advantage and likes to fight at a distance...not to mention it was southpaw vs orthodox, which is a completely different dynamic. You're comparing different things. Injury or not, there was nothing impressive about pacs performance.

What does this have to do with Floyd? Guess who started this thread? A Floyd fan that is disappointed that his hero Floyd fought an injured Manny. So to say, it was an empty win. They do not care to look fore the truth because they know that a renowned doctor would not put his career on the line for this.

Mostly Floyd fans who are saying that Manny couldn't fight with that kind of injury. You said that too. So I reminded you and Floyd fans that they have been using the torn rotator cuff excuse since 2002 to try to explain Floyd's poor performance that night.


Manny vs Floyd: Most highlights that stand out are ones where Manny hits Floyd. Floyd's highlights are hugging Manny or putting him in a head lock!

[Dosumpthin]

What does this have to do with Floyd? Guess who started this thread? A Floyd fan that is disappointed that his hero Floyd fought an injured Manny. So to say, it was an empty win. They do not care to look fore the truth because they know that a renowned doctor would not put his career on the line for this.

Mostly Floyd fans who are saying that Manny couldn't fight with that kind of injury. You said that too. So I reminded you and Floyd fans that they have been using the torn rotator cuff excuse since 2002 to try to explain Floyd's poor performance that night.


Manny vs Floyd: Most highlights that stand out are ones where Manny hits Floyd. Floyd's highlights are hugging Manny or putting him in a head lock!

Random deflection. What's going on with you??????? Lol

Just admit it.

Thanks to travestny the majority of the boxing community can all agree - Team manny has been caught lying about the circumstances surrounding the injury. Not saying he wasnt injured in some form, but they are OBVIOUSLY lying about it.



Looking forward to the next topic.....

Why so many conflicting statements?????

I believe manny has been abusing toradol (and possibly other drugs and PRP treaments) for a while using a nagging injury as a cover and alibi.

Because of the magnitude of the fight, what had become a routine injection, wasn't allowed by NSAC - and it sent a shock wave through manny camp.

So you have all these half truths that don't add up.

[Real King Kong]

What does this have to do with Floyd? Guess who started this thread? A Floyd fan that is disappointed that his hero Floyd fought an injured Manny. So to say, it was an empty win. They do not care to look fore the truth because they know that a renowned doctor would not put his career on the line for this.

Mostly Floyd fans who are saying that Manny couldn't fight with that kind of injury. You said that too. So I reminded you and Floyd fans that they have been using the torn rotator cuff excuse since 2002 to try to explain Floyd's poor performance that night.


Manny vs Floyd: Most highlights that stand out are ones where Manny hits Floyd. Floyd's highlights are hugging Manny or putting him in a head lock!

Op made a thread about manny's injury...not about floyd mayweather. Keep your paranoid delusions about who's a floyd fan and what you think their ulterior motives are to yourself. Does floyd need an excuse to lose a close competitive fight to the best guy in the division in his first fight there? Some may feel he does...i don't. He could have cherry picked a belt from the weakest titleist in the division like another fighter we know did when he moved to 135. *cough cough * david diaz...

[travestyny]

It would have been better to say that its a partial tear that would heal in a month.
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If it's not clear already why they went for full thickness tear....look no further than what that information did to you:

i did not understand the severity. so manny had a severe injury! So manny fought with basically one arm!

this really diminished what floyd did even if you had him winning the fight but that is another topic.

Do you understand now? They gamed you, and you fell for it. You're still falling for it.

Problem is that they left a trail that didn't make sense, and Manny fuvked up because he was itching to play ball instead of pretending to rehab. I can't blame him. Who wants to pretend to rehab a shoulder that doesn't need much rehabilitation?

Let it go, man. It's over now. I'm done with this.