The Final Verdict: Did Pac Have a Full Thickness Rotator Cuff Tear?

[Calabis]

Anyone thinking he tore it in this fight, are pretty sad and looking for an excuse.

[travestyny]

What's wrong with aquatic rehab?

Here is Teddy Atlas who everyone knows has criticized Manny every chance he could. He found nothing wrong with Manny doing his rehab in water.

hahahahahahaha. Oh man, I'm trying to end this thread, I really am, but I find it so hard not to keep clowning you.

You have no idea what aquatic rehab is, do you? Here you go. Here's a nice example for you. Manny should be in this picture here.

lol . Then you go and post a video with Teddy Atlas as if he is a medical expert (by the way, even he is smart enough to mention what if Manny gets hit by a large wave in the ocean). Here you go man. One more time:

"Swimming plays no role in the rehabilitation program for people with rotator cuff injuries and, second, swimmers are at risk of getting rotator cuff injuries because the shoulders play such an important role in swimming strokes."
http://www.livestrong.com/article/39...-rotator-cuff/


"Rehabilitation guidelines for repairing the rotator cuff, clearly rule out swimming, even at 14 weeks after surgery."
http://www.livestrong.com/article/39...-rotator-cuff/

With the consent of their surgeon, a patient may return to activities such as swimming between 4 and 6 months following the procedure.
http://www.orthop.washington.edu/?q=...tor-cuff-tears

Type 1 Rotator Cuff Repair:
No Swimming for up to 15 weeks after surgery.

Type 2 Rotator Cuff Repair:
No swimming up to 20 weeks after surgery.
http://www.uwhealth.org/files/uwheal...RTC_Repair.pdf

Return to swimming 6-8 months after surgery.
http://www.massgeneral.org/ortho-spo...20protocol.pdf

No swimming up to 25 weeks after surgery
http://uhealthsportsmedicine.com/doc..._Tenodesis.pdf

No swimming up to 19 weeks after surgery
http://www.taosortho.com/patientinfo...20protocol.pdf

Patients can return to swimming with a graduated program from 3-6 months post surgery
http://www.shouldersurgery.com.au/ro...ff-repair.html

No swimming for the first 4 months
http://www.uptodate.com/contents/rot...ond-the-basics

No swimming for until months 4 - 6
http://www.orthonc.com/sites/default...uff_Repair.pdf

Can resume swimming at 3 months(this is the site that you chose to mention, and it still doesn't agree with you)
http://www.sosmed.org/specialties/sh...tor-cuff-tear/

Finally, you say he only swam with his legs. THEN HOW THE HELL DID HE REHAB HIS SHOULDER IN 3 MONTHS!!!!!???? LOL. I'M DONE MAN. YOU ARE PATHETIC.

[Scipio2009]

side note

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/787263/...quiao-petition

interesting little nugget, if you look for it.

[aboutfkntime]

So let me get this straight...floyd shouldn't have fought and beat the champion of the division? Regardless of what you think of him, leaving toprank was the best thing floyd did in his career. If you actually believe that fights not being not made with toprank fighters was all on floyd, then there's nothing left to talk about. The fight not being made in 2010 was on manny.

Simple as this. It took Floyd and Cotto two weeks to make a fight after Cotto left Arum. Money wasn't an issue, weight (154) wasn't an issue, they made the fight easily. Arum was the issue.

Arum was the issue standing in the way of the Pacquiao fight too, it only finally got made after a chance encounter the two fighters had. And there is little doubt that Arum and his team invented the injury in the locker room after the fight or Manny would have mentioned in the ring right after the fight or at least to his corner during the fight. What a shame that Pacquiao had his career tarnished by trash like Arum.

you guys know whats up, smart posts ^^

[aboutfkntime]

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/787263/...quiao-petition

interesting little nugget, if you look for it.

Whoah, that can't be right.....

I used a google currency converter to USD, but I think I got it wrong ?

Pac owes $70mil in taxes, and his net worth is $25mil ?

That can't be right ?

Maybe I added a couple of integers that I shouldn't have, not sure ?

[Spoon23]

Oh look after a surgery there is an aquatic therapy pool for rehab!

http://centerforphysicalexcellence.c...ountain-youth/


The aquatic therapy pool at The Center for Physical Excellence is the first of its kind in the quad-city area. The multi-depth setting allows for a variety of weight bearing options and exercise choices. Physical therapy in an aquatic setting offers early painfree movement and faster healing. It is offered in conjunction with land based therapy or by itself as primary therapy. Individuals can access the pool with graduated stairs and hand rails.

Most musculoskeletal injuries can be helped with aquatic therapy. Research has shown aquatic therapy can help with the following conditions: arthritis, fibromyalgia, deconditioning, chronic and severe pain, balance and walking problems, injuries to the shoulder, neck, low back, hip knee, ankle and foot, total knee/hip replacement, various pre and post-surgical conditions (spinal fusions, laminectomy, ACL/Meniscus tears and repairs; other conditions that limit the body’s ability to bear weight).

“The pool therapy eased the pain because of the water’s buoyancy and reduction of stress on my joints. The expertise of the physical therapists guided me through the warm water exercises several times a week and soon my pain was significantly reduced,” reported Vicky Young, PhD.

– Laura Markey, PT, DPT, FAAOMPT

[ADP02]

So let me get this straight...floyd shouldn't have fought and beat the champion of the division? Regardless of what you think of him, leaving toprank was the best thing floyd did in his career. If you actually believe that fights not being not made with toprank fighters was all on floyd, then there's nothing left to talk about. The fight not being made in 2010 was on manny.

You initially said those fights were not possible. If Floyd wanted those fights they were there. Floyd cherry picked them at the most opportune time.


and to answer your question, of course it made no sense to go after no-name slo-mo Baldomir especially when he was ready to retire. Again, Mosley and others would have looked way better.

[ADP02]

Simple as this. It took Floyd and Cotto two weeks to make a fight after Cotto left Arum. Money wasn't an issue, weight (154) wasn't an issue, they made the fight easily. Arum was the issue.

Arum was the issue standing in the way of the Pacquiao fight too, it only finally got made after a chance encounter the two fighters had. And there is little doubt that Arum and his team invented the injury in the locker room after the fight or Manny would have mentioned in the ring right after the fight or at least to his corner during the fight. What a shame that Pacquiao had his career tarnished by trash like Arum.

and after Cotto got beat up by Margarito and Manny .... Floyd then was quick to pull the trigger! Whoooa Floyd .... just when nobody was interested anymore!

[travestyny]

Oh look after a surgery there is an aquatic therapy pool for rehab!

http://centerforphysicalexcellence.c...ountain-youth/


The aquatic therapy pool at The Center for Physical Excellence is the first of its kind in the quad-city area. The multi-depth setting allows for a variety of weight bearing options and exercise choices. Physical therapy in an aquatic setting offers early painfree movement and faster healing. It is offered in conjunction with land based therapy or by itself as primary therapy. Individuals can access the pool with graduated stairs and hand rails.

Most musculoskeletal injuries can be helped with aquatic therapy. Research has shown aquatic therapy can help with the following conditions: arthritis, fibromyalgia, deconditioning, chronic and severe pain, balance and walking problems, injuries to the shoulder, neck, low back, hip knee, ankle and foot, total knee/hip replacement, various pre and post-surgical conditions (spinal fusions, laminectomy, ACL/Meniscus tears and repairs; other conditions that limit the body’s ability to bear weight).

“The pool therapy eased the pain because of the water’s buoyancy and reduction of stress on my joints. The expertise of the physical therapists guided me through the warm water exercises several times a week and soon my pain was significantly reduced,” reported Vicky Young, PhD.

– Laura Markey, PT, DPT, FAAOMPT

Are you slow? (At this point, this is a rhetorical question.)


1. Do you see the word pool there?
2. Did you see the word shoulder there?
3. Did you scroll up and see all of the documentation I listed about recovery from full-thickness rotator cuff surgery with regards to swimming.

Give up. Tuck your tail and run away like you usually do, or talk about my red bars.

[ADP02]

hahahahahahaha. Oh man, I'm trying to end this thread, I really am, but I find it so hard not to keep clowning you.

You have no idea what aquatic rehab is, do you? Here you go. Here's a nice example for you. Manny should be in this picture here.

lol . Then you go and post a video with Teddy Atlas as if he is a medical expert (by the way, even he is smart enough to mention what if Manny gets hit by a large wave in the ocean). Here you go man. One more time:

"Swimming plays no role in the rehabilitation program for people with rotator cuff injuries and, second, swimmers are at risk of getting rotator cuff injuries because the shoulders play such an important role in swimming strokes."
http://www.livestrong.com/article/39...-rotator-cuff/


"Rehabilitation guidelines for repairing the rotator cuff, clearly rule out swimming, even at 14 weeks after surgery."
http://www.livestrong.com/article/39...-rotator-cuff/

With the consent of their surgeon, a patient may return to activities such as swimming between 4 and 6 months following the procedure.
http://www.orthop.washington.edu/?q=...tor-cuff-tears

Type 1 Rotator Cuff Repair:
No Swimming for up to 15 weeks after surgery.

Type 2 Rotator Cuff Repair:
No swimming up to 20 weeks after surgery.
http://www.uwhealth.org/files/uwheal...RTC_Repair.pdf

Return to swimming 6-8 months after surgery.
http://www.massgeneral.org/ortho-spo...20protocol.pdf

No swimming up to 25 weeks after surgery
http://uhealthsportsmedicine.com/doc..._Tenodesis.pdf

No swimming up to 19 weeks after surgery
http://www.taosortho.com/patientinfo...20protocol.pdf

Patients can return to swimming with a graduated program from 3-6 months post surgery
http://www.shouldersurgery.com.au/ro...ff-repair.html

No swimming for the first 4 months
http://www.uptodate.com/contents/rot...ond-the-basics

No swimming for until months 4 - 6
http://www.orthonc.com/sites/default...uff_Repair.pdf

Can resume swimming at 3 months(this is the site that you chose to mention, and it still doesn't agree with you)
http://www.sosmed.org/specialties/sh...tor-cuff-tear/

Finally, you say he only swam with his legs. THEN HOW THE HELL DID HE REHAB HIS SHOULDER IN 3 MONTHS!!!!!???? LOL. I'M DONE MAN. YOU ARE PATHETIC.

Old lady's in a pool? and you have the courage to use the words pathetic?


and here I was waiting for your big evidence. Just like I thought, you are hanging on Manny saying swimming and you think he was doing this:

[IMG]http://i283.***********.com/albums/kk304/lizzzayyyy/phelps-swimming.gif[/IMG]