Comments Thread For: Mayweather: I'm Not Ducking Golovkin, When Will He Move Up?

[Chollo Vista]

I don't agree with you and the numbers over the last 60 do not agree with you either. Now if you want to continue an endless debate, I suggest you place a bet with me or simply discontinue this discussion which is going nowhere. I will speak to further discussions on this with money and nothing else. Then we will see who is right. Put your money where your mouth is, otherwise this discussion is over.

Why are you trying to change the subject about how much GGG will weigh as oppose to what Abel Sanchez says he's been capable of doing since 2012?

We're talking about GGG beating up Sergei Kovalev, cruiserweights and heavyweights while weighing around 160, but you're saying he can't do the same thing against Ward?

I'll place a bet with you alright. I bet you that if GGG ever decides to go up in weight to face Ward in a deal to fight FMJ in the following fight, it will be a sad day because you will no longer be with us.

[richardt]

Why are you trying to change the subject about how much GGG will weigh as oppose to what Abel Sanchez says he's been capable of doing since 2012?

We're talking about GGG beating up Sergei Kovalev, cruiserweights and heavyweights while weighing around 160, but you're saying he can't do the same thing against Ward?

I'll place a bet with you alright. I bet you that if GGG ever decides to go up in weight to face Ward in a deal to fight FMJ in the following fight, it will be a sad day because you will no longer be with us.

I could CARE LESS what happens in sparring or if GGG can do the same at 160 or 168 for that matter against Ward. I'm saying what he WILL do and that is gain weight if he moves up.

And you are such a damn airhead because TIME AND TIME again I have said Ward is one of my favorite fighters and I have not endeared myself to GGG! Translation, I not only pick Ward to win if they fight I also HOPE he wins! I was raised 5 minutes from Ward in Oakland and I worked at the school he went to and I have been a fan of his from day one! So how the *** would I be depressed if one of my 5 favorite fighters wins against a fighter who is not one of my favorites???!!!!!!! Now go commit the suicide you keep talking about if you cannot grasp that!

[Chollo Vista]

I could CARE LESS what happens in sparring or if GGG can do the same at 160

Of course you don't. You don't care what Abel Sanchez has said he's done against bigger fighters while weighing significantly less.

You don't care about GGG dropping Kovalev and having him "afraid".

You don't want GGG to be great and have the fight he's dreamed about against FMJ. All you want to do is caudal the baby.

BTW, do you think that just because you tell me how much you supposedly love Ward should take away from the fact that you caudal GGG and are a cowardice suicidal fan?

[Sweet_Science2]

How was the offer BS? Golovkin would have gone up 4lbs, & Ward would have come down 4lbs. You can't get more fair than that. If Ward wanted Golovkin so bad, he would have accepted. News flash: Ward hasn't beaten a big name in nearly 4 years. Golovkin doesn't need to bring up Ward to bolster himself, as the interviewer & Ward suggested.

Let me answer this! He wanted to fight Chavez jr, and Froch all at the 168 limit no problem. Ward hasn't beaten a top guy in 4 years? When has lil g beaten a top guy? He had the chance to catch Ward while he was coming off of legal issues and beat him at 168. He wasn't confident that's why his team didn't do it. They felt they could beat: Chavez jr, Hopkins, Froch at 168 so there was no need for a catch weight. Had they not claimed anybody from 154-168 could get it and made serious offers to fight at 168 then that would be different.

Imagine if Ward was willing to go up to 175 and fight everybody but Kovalev? And was claiming anybody from 160 to 175 can get it? And Andre Ward was supposed to be the next Tyson and most feared, but when Kovalev calls his bluff he says 170. But Hopkins, Barrea, Stevenson I will fight you all at 175. But Kovalev you have to fight me at 170.

What does that sound like to you? Does it sound like Ward really wants that fight?

[JUNIABOY]

Yea Floyd Apparently according to you 2 of the greatest middleweights in history are just pure cowards according to You. So Bernard Hopkins moving up at age 40 supposedly waited to long to move up and Marvin Hagler is a little ***** because he never moved up. hahaha these Floyd people are laughable. Of course Floyds pompous ass just couldnt handle it the moment a fight starts getting a ton of hype in GGG vs Canelo the little money hungry greedy pompous woman beater starts his **** again, Hes just mad that people are happy hes finally retired and the real fighters are fighting that actual care about putting on a true battle where everythings left in the ring like real warriors. Not some little bithch Nig thats more worried about money than the people that feed his family. The crazy thing is that Pretty Boy Floyd used to be my favorite fighter when he actually fought with heart and actually took real risks and cared about leaving everything in the ring, but then this piece of **** was spawned out of that great boxer and it was a very sad day. Wake up people and get floyds C#@k out of your mouth, GGG will move up when he unifies the division like hes been saying for 4 years, he would've moved up 3 years ago if the WBC champ wasnt ducking him for the last 4 years from Sergio to Cotto and now Canelo. Use your heads. The thing is it doesnt matter who GGG beats to these Roid monkey Floyd Mayweather fans itll always be the same bull****. He'll beat Ward and they'll say "Oh dat sum Bu****, Ward hadnt been fighten in like fo years and he had himself a hurt Shoulder, dat dont count" Then GGG will put Canelo to sleep and they'll say " Canelo was overrated he really lost to Lara and Trout and he be fighting at 155 he to small for GGG dat sum bu****" When really everyone knows the real reason Floyd fans hate GGG its because they are the most racist group of boxing fans in history and they just cant stand seeing a White/Korean beat the **** out of everyone. Bunch of racist hatters. Believe being open minded and watching fighters for their skills not their race is much more fun. My favorite fighters are Pretty boy Floyd before he turned into a piece of ****, Roy Jones, GGG, Kovalev. Its called watching fighters for there skills yall shoud try it sometime.

Very well said. Not too many boxing fans are going to disagree that the PBF version of FMJ was a beast...but the Money May versions of FMJ was a diva. It appeared that he cared more about the protecting that zero than anything else.

[richardt]

Of course you don't. You don't care what Abel Sanchez has said he's done against bigger fighters while weighing significantly less.

You don't care about GGG dropping Kovalev and having him "afraid".

You don't want GGG to be great and have the fight he's dreamed about against FMJ. All you want to do is caudal the baby.

BTW, do you think that just because you tell me how much you supposedly love Ward should take away from the fact that you caudal GGG and are a cowardice suicidal fan?

Cowardice Suicidal fan????? I'm blocking you now you nutcase. Don't try to respond any further, I wont see it.

[JUNIABOY]

Floyd is retired, so currently Canelo is the biggest name in boxing. And GGG refuses to go to 155 for that also.

I gave you a whole list of fighters that have given concessions to their opponent, but you're here hardheartedly defending this crap.

That's fine with me because guess what? GGG vs Mayweather just won't happen.

Again, Mayweather at 40 doesn't need GGG. GGG is asking Floyd about a challenge at 154.

I'm fine with letting you GGG fans keep breast feeding the baby.

That argument you make about GGG not wanting to lose 5 lbs to fight Canelo is a double-edged sword. I can turn around & ask the same question of Canelo: how come Canelo won't step up to 160 when it's only 5 lbs? You can't make it seem like GGG is completely at fault when your same argument can be used against you. Wouldn't it make more sense for Canelo to drain 5 lbs less?...I mean, he's cutting that extra 5 lbs for no reason, right?...can we at least agree that 155 isn't a weight class?

RE: concessions in boxing. It's not a concession unless a contract is written up. So, are we going to get FMJ to sign a contract that says he will fight GGG after a GGG/Ward bout?...because, I can guarantee that if you could get that in writing (& convince Ward to sign up for this deal too), then GGG will definitely sign it. But if you can't get a contract for said concessions, then it's nothing but a criteria to follow by. And that's exactly what FMJ did when he set a criteria for GGG to fight Ward first. There is simply no intent to have that bout from FMJ...just words to fool the masses. So, in essence, you were right about a FMJ/GGG bout ever happening...which, begs the question: Why is FMJ talking like that fight might happen when he can put it all to rest by saying that fight isn't going to happen?...is he a sadist who is inviting criticism?

[JUNIABOY]

GGG wants to become undisputed MW champ, but he's challenging Floyd at 154 and several other guys at 168, right?

I just posted an article of Loeffler saying they would fight DeGale at 168, then go back down to 160.

Why are you guys such great big cowards with all these stipulations?

Why is it so hard for you to understand that GGG's team are trying to get him the best boxer that is willing to fight GGG? The fact that they've tried to negotiate will all sorts of boxers from different weight classes lets the people know that they're not going to duck anybody...even going so far to say that if none of the champions at 160 don't want to fight him next, they will pursue 168 champion Ramirez...that deserves high praise when one of their top options is a champion 1 division above. And I know you want to bring up Ward...but the guy won't be available for another year. And GGG didn't force Ward to sign that HBO contract...Ward made that decision all on his own. If you want to question how brave GGG is, I would like to point you in the direction of the HBO piece about the GGG/Rosado fight...it's where GGG & Ward meet for the 1st time. And I'll end it by asking 1 question: what was GGG's first words to Ward?

[bug0092]

Let me answer this! He wanted to fight Chavez jr, and Froch all at the 168 limit no problem. Ward hasn't beaten a top guy in 4 years? When has lil g beaten a top guy? He had the chance to catch Ward while he was coming off of legal issues and beat him at 168. He wasn't confident that's why his team didn't do it. They felt they could beat: Chavez jr, Hopkins, Froch at 168 so there was no need for a catch weight. Had they not claimed anybody from 154-168 could get it and made serious offers to fight at 168 then that would be different.

Imagine if Ward was willing to go up to 175 and fight everybody but Kovalev? And was claiming anybody from 160 to 175 can get it? And Andre Ward was supposed to be the next Tyson and most feared, but when Kovalev calls his bluff he says 170. But Hopkins, Barrea, Stevenson I will fight you all at 175. But Kovalev you have to fight me at 170.

What does that sound like to you? Does it sound like Ward really wants that fight?

Well, you'd have to modify that a bit...the weight would have to be more like 171.5 -- halfway between the two. Kovalev would have to have taken the previous 2 years off and would need Ward to sign a contract for a future fight down the road after a couple of tune ups. Also, Ward would be signing a contract that would likely mess up his own plans to land a unification fight with the lineal champ in his division in what would be one of the biggest PPV fights that could be made in boxing.

164 was never an official offer. And, when exactly was GGG supposed to catch Ward coming off legal issues? When exactly was Ward ready to take the fight? He'd be on the same timeline he's on now with Kovalev...and when is that fight supposed to happen? What is GGG doing right now?..And when is that fight supposed to happen?

[JUNIABOY]

So a 34 year old pussie g is not close to retirement? How many more years does he have left at this rate? He will be 38 and 39 still fighting bums? At the rate he is going that is the case. Pussie g is a bytch made end of story. He had an opportunity to go up and shut ALL the Ward fans up and the doubters up but he bytched out. Pussie g needs to have his resume thrown in the trash and spit on.

It is that bad. If people wasn't hyping pussie g up so much I wouldn't be shytting on him. But since he claims to be a great, and people are talking like he is great but he is fighting freshman and JV type fighters c'mon with that bull shyt.

Even when it came to fighting Lara at 160 that pussie and his team started talking about - Lara not being a draw. Al Haymon, Lara would run all fight. Clearly pussie g can fight an Al Haymon fighter he just fought Wade. Man fuuck pussie g and fuuck who ever supports that bum eater. And it is not that many people because when he had his ppv that shyt flopped something ugly. Once pussie g steps up then talk.

Considering how very little damage GGG has taken over the past decade, a case can be made that he will be in his prime for another 3 to 4 years. And he probably won't retire once he leaves his prime. The guy could fight until he past 40.

RE: Ward, was it GGG's fault that Ward signed a contract to fight at 175, further pushing any chance of GGG/Ward bout back a few years?...did GGG force Ward to sign that HBO contract? And you can't convince boxing fans that Ward signed it for the challenge...there is no challenge in tune-ups...the true challenge was taking Kovalev right away. But beyond that, why couldn't Ward just stay at 168 since he had unfinished business. The guy never became undisputed at the division...and he definitely did not clean it out. The 3 fights that could have been made at 168 while waiting for GGG could have gone Dirrell, Bute, then DeGale for the 3rd bout. Those are all interesting fights. But Ward made a decision &, for some strange reason, continues to call out GGG. Those are all Ward problems. If Ward truly wanted a GGG fight at 168, he should have stayed at 168. But the evidence is out...he probably can't make 168 anymore...time has caught up with him. Do you disagree?