Comments Thread For: Lucas Browne's B Sample Positive: Stripped By WBA, Suspended

[bboy80]

Interesting. So that previous test, while not detecting anything specific in his system, could have been considered a negative result, but came up with some red flags that led to a 2nd more in depth test to sort those red flags out one way or another? I've not really heard of this with boxing PED testing, but it seems like something that could make sense & keep expenses down.

Are there any facts involving what sorta tests were used in these 2 situation to gauge how likely or unlikely what you are saying is plausible? What facts could come forward that would prove or disprove your theory?

No facts that I've seen to honest. I'm just quoting from experience in the pharmacy world I suppose.

I mean the tests would have to be generic to start with imo, how can you find something if your not quite sure what you are looking for. Or if you are looking for something specific (ie: banned drugs list) how can you filter through them all the cheapest and quickest way.

It would make sense to have a cheap generic test first that just picks up anomalies. Then if something gets picked up, the samples go through more rigorous tests.

Therefore the reasoning why everyone who has been caught has to wait on there B sample coming back.

[Sadiqkingofko]

Anyone who doubts Browne should do some actual research into Ramzan Kadyrov, the ****** dictator who was sitting in a throne at ringside and making throat slashing motions at Browne when he won. Nobody is beating Chagaev in Chechnya. Quendo beat him previously but still lost. Here are the two (ahem) "sparring buddies." It's a sad farce.

**** i noticed that dude to browne will get his shot at luis ortiz tho eventually

[gmc_rfc_06]

Browne has been cheated, I'm 100% certain.

He arrived there clean, they have done something.

[Eff Pandas]

No facts that I've seen to honest. I'm just quoting from experience in the pharmacy world I suppose.

I mean the tests would have to be generic to start with imo, how can you find something if your not quite sure what you are looking for. Or if you are looking for something specific (ie: banned drugs list) how can you filter through them all the cheapest and quickest way.

It would make sense to have a cheap generic test first that just picks up anomalies. Then if something gets picked up, the samples go through more rigorous tests.

Therefore the reasoning why everyone who has been caught has to wait on there B sample coming back.

Well I mean I can see the bolded. My assumption would just be that you'd take enough blood &/or piss to pinpoint an issue in the lab with that sample. So for example you don't do the $1,000 test to detect the brand name of the synthetic testosterone that you may or may not find being used from jump street, but you got enough blood &/or piss to get down to those finer points with the first sample if you need to.

If they are doing these tests like you are suggesting it seems like it'd give guys more chance to outsmart these tests cuz a guy doing something sketchy could figure there is gonna be a solid chance these red flags pop up once they'd been tested & they'll be back to test him again in another week or few days or whatever & could take some actions that could help him pass this potential future test.

[Shrap]

The guy was online boasting how in shape he was and how serious he was applying himself in training, claiming he had shed excess weight and was in the condition of his career, then he's busted and claims 'why'd I wanna lose weight ?'

The guy is ****in guilty.

Hopefully Chagaev stays retired, he shouldn't be losing to guys like Browne period, I don't care whether he was slim, fat, whatever, Chagaev would have ended this guy 5 year ago. Stay retired.

The Ortiz vs Ustinov fight with Oquendo an immediate mandatory isn't a bad series of fights for the mandatory challenge to the Klitschko when he takes his 'revenge'.

Are you serious? That's your "evidence" for him being guilty?

You didn't happen to realise it was his first shot at a world title, the biggest fight for him by far and would make history for his country if he won it?

Of course the guy would've pushed himself to the absolute maximum for the fight of his career and proudly shared his progress for motivation and support. I seriously doubt he would've brought prohibited substances into Russia, especially when he wasn't even cycling as his pre-Russia blood test proved.

This doesn't sit right with me. He really should've been smarter like Fury was.

[Eff Pandas]

Anyone who doubts Browne should do some actual research into Ramzan Kadyrov, the ****** dictator who was sitting in a throne at ringside and making throat slashing motions at Browne when he won.

Please tell me there are pics of this? This sounds like bs, but I'm rooting for it to be true at this point cuz it sounds like some **** from a 1980's Chuck Norris film.

[Ulver]

**** i noticed that dude to browne will get his shot at luis ortiz tho eventually

Even the Klitschkos got in hot water for associating with the madman Kadyrov.

Browne is lucky he left Chechnya alive.

http://www.kyivpost.com/article/cont...obb-93907.html

[bboy80]

Well I mean I can see the bolded. My assumption would just be that you'd take enough blood &/or piss to pinpoint an issue in the lab with that sample. So for example you don't do the $1,000 test to detect the brand name of the synthetic testosterone that you may or may not find being used from jump street, but you got enough blood &/or piss to get down to those finer points with the first sample if you need to.

If they are doing these tests like you are suggesting it seems like it'd give guys more chance to outsmart these tests cuz a guy doing something sketchy could figure there is gonna be a solid chance these red flags pop up once they'd been tested & they'll be back to test him again in another week or few days or whatever & could take some actions that could help him pass this potential future test.

No they dont go back and take another sample, its done at the time of the first sample. B sample gets kept, until they are clean. Once passed that B sample gets destroyed.

So to clarify 2 samples are taken. one sample get put forward for testing, if it comes back clean sample B is discarded. If it comes back positive sample B gets tested.

[bboy80]

Even the Klitschkos got in hot water for associating with the madman Kadyrov.

Browne is lucky he left Chechnya alive.

http://www.kyivpost.com/article/cont...obb-93907.html

Yeah because they didnt looks mates whatsoever lmao..

[Eff Pandas]

No they dont go back and take another sample, its done at the time of the first sample. B sample gets kept, until they are clean. Once passed that B sample gets destroyed.

So to clarify 2 samples are taken. one sample get put forward for testing, if it comes back clean sample B is discarded. If it comes back positive sample B gets tested.

I think we are talking about two different things.

I'm talking about the clean test a week or whatever previous to the dirty test not A sample & B sample stuff with the dirty sample.