Comments Thread For: Lucas Browne's B Sample Positive: Stripped By WBA, Suspended

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  • 285Kid
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    #51
    Originally posted by Sadiqkingofko
    But ruslan chagaev was cheated and oqueno has been mandatory since july 2014
    chagaev retire , and oquendo should now fight Luis

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    • Eff Pandas
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      #52
      Browne tests positive for clenbuterol.
      Stripped of title.
      Vargas tests positive for clenbuterol.
      Warned to not get caught again.

      Seems fair.

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        #53
        Originally posted by 285Kid
        chagaev retire , and oquendo should now fight Luis
        How the eff is the WBA bold enough to even bring up Oquendo*. I mean don't you lose your status sooner or later? He's 43 ffs. This guy hasn't fought in a year & 10 months ffs. How can you be ranked or guaranteed anything after that much inactivity? He hasn't even beaten a legit contender since 2001 (David Izon).

        *I understand there was some dumbass agreement or court thing that led to this, but wtf still

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          #54
          Originally posted by bboy80
          "Clenbuterol"

          Common Uses

          Post-Cycle Therapy: Clen is used post cycle to aid in recovery. It allows the user to continue eating large amounts of food, without worrying about adding body fat. It also helps the user maintain more of his strength as well as his intensity in the gym.

          Fat loss: The most popular use for Clen, it also increases muscle hardness, vascularity, strength and size on a caloric deficit. For the most significant fat loss, Clen can be stacked with T3.

          Alternative to Steroids : Clenbuterol has mild steroid -like properties and can be used by non-AS using bodybuilder to increase LBM as well as strength and muscle hardness.

          Stimulant/Performance Enhancement: It can be used as a stimulant, but an ECA stack may be a better choice because of it's much shorter half-life.

          Basically if your using Clen, your usually doing steroids.
          Shouldn't Browne have tested positive for steroids or Clenbuterol in his previous test then?

          I honestly don't know if Browne is using PEDs (he certainly has the body type of a guy who's abused some PEDs) or not, but I'm definitely of the opinion that there are some questionable things going on with PED testing in & around the region this fight took place in which is why I have some issues with just outright going along with this result as I normally would.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Machinist_X
            it does amuse me how serious people take this forum as if points and being red means anything, i would actually take being red as a mark of honor.

            aint been on in a while but i think welt the fury hater blocked me shortly after the wlad win as i couldnt reply to a aj thread he made if i am remembering correctly, so that gives you some idea of how much salt is in his vagina.
            He's still crying himself to sleep over Wladimir losing to Fury!

            Boxing GOAT blocked me after the fight as well, he put a quote on his sig of me claiming that Fury would win every round. That sig disappeared after the fight as well!
            Last edited by removed; 05-13-2016, 06:42 AM.

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            • King_
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              #56
              Originally posted by ИATAS
              "Regular title" what a joke. Why are they looking to give it to anyone at all? ****** lying WBA, didn't they say they were going to get ride of having all these ****** "regular" and "interim" belts and just have one champion?
              Ugh, WBA is the worst with that ****

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                #57
                Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                Shouldn't Browne have tested positive for steroids or Clenbuterol in his previous test then?

                I honestly don't know if Browne is using PEDs (he certainly has the body type of a guy who's abused some PEDs) or not, but I'm definitely of the opinion that there are some questionable things going on with PED testing in & around the region this fight took place in which is why I have some issues with just outright going along with this result as I normally would.
                All depends on the tests they do. I would imagine they do a standard test to check for anomalies, much like hospitals and pharmacists do. If anything is picked up then a second test is done to confirm what the anomaly is.

                Its generally done like this to save money, its pretty common.

                ps: I used to run a pharmacy.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by bboy80
                  All depends on the tests they do. I would imagine they do a standard test to check for anomalies, much like hospitals and pharmacists do. If anything is picked up then a second test is done to confirm what the anomaly is.

                  Its generally done like this to save money, its pretty common.

                  ps: I used to run a pharmacy.
                  Interesting. So that previous test, while not detecting anything specific in his system, could have been considered a negative result, but came up with some red flags that led to a 2nd more in depth test to sort those red flags out one way or another? I've not really heard of this with boxing PED testing, but it seems like something that could make sense & keep expenses down.

                  Are there any facts involving what sorta tests were used in these 2 situation to gauge how likely or unlikely what you are saying is plausible? What facts could come forward that would prove or disprove your theory?

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by 285Kid
                    chagaev retire , and oquendo should now fight Luis
                    after unistov tho

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                      #60
                      Anyone who doubts Browne should do some actual research into Ramzan Kadyrov, the ****** dictator who was sitting in a throne at ringside and making throat slashing motions at Browne when he won. Nobody is beating Chagaev in Chechnya. Quendo beat him previously but still lost. Here are the two (ahem) "sparring buddies." It's a sad farce.

                      Last edited by Ulver; 05-13-2016, 07:55 AM.

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