Is Floyd (and CBS Sports execs) waiting for GBP and K2, HBO finalization?

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  • Mitchell Kane
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    #21
    Originally posted by about.thousands
    CBS not PPV.
    CBS didn't do the Berto fight...why would they do this fight given the drop in PPV numbers Mayweather did against Berto and also knowing that they'll likely have competition from HBO PPV (which Berto PPV didn't have)?

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      #22
      Originally posted by Mitchell Kane
      CBS didn't do the Berto fight...why would they do this fight given the drop in PPV numbers Mayweather did against Berto and also knowing that they'll likely have competition from HBO PPV (which Berto PPV didn't have)?
      They didn't do the Berto fight on CBS because it was financially impossible. Networks plan months in advance. The Berto fight was officially announced August 4th.

      Espinoza confirmed that Showtime explored the possibility but found out very quickly that it wasn't going to work from a financially position, because most of the ads [if not all] for the week of September 12th were already sold back in May.
      Stephen Espinoza, head of Showtime Sports, says Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Andre Berto was never under serious consideration to get showcased on CBS as a network television event. Espinoza confirms that Showtime explored that possibility but found out very quickly that it wasn't going to work from a financially position, because most of the ads [if not all] for the week of September 12th were already sold back in May.


      Nobody reads the articles on the site they post on?

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        #23
        the people who watch floyd fights aren't even boxing fans. Than why he sells so much more than anyone else. Noone cared who maidana was, berto was or guerrero was. These are names casuals have never heard. Floyd talks hella ****, says im the best ever, throws money around and gets hated enough to be a big draw. I do think it would be foolish to do a fight on the same date, but don't think that our opinion as boxing enthusiasts changes his efficiency as a draw

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          #24
          Originally posted by about.thousands
          They didn't do the Berto fight on CBS because it was financially impossible. Networks plan months in advance. The Berto fight was officially announced August 4th.



          Stephen Espinoza, head of Showtime Sports, says Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Andre Berto was never under serious consideration to get showcased on CBS as a network television event. Espinoza confirms that Showtime explored that possibility but found out very quickly that it wasn't going to work from a financially position, because most of the ads [if not all] for the week of September 12th were already sold back in May.


          Nobody reads the articles on the site they post on?
          For the amount of money being discussed whats the actual viability of putting together the sponsors & advertisers needed for this fight to be on CBS? Does anyone actually know or got some figures or projections to back it up?

          I tend to think a $100M+ purse fight on network TV isn't doable, but thats just my gut feeling. I'm certainly of the opinion its an interesting concept these days to put a huge fight that transcends the sport on network TV like they used to do back in the day. And I'd love to see it happen, I just don't feel like its a reasonable expectation to have nowadays.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Eff Pandas
            For the amount of money being discussed whats the actual viability of putting together the sponsors & advertisers needed for this fight to be on CBS? Does anyone actually know or got some figures or projections to back it up?

            I tend to think a $100M+ purse fight on network TV isn't doable, but thats just my gut feeling. I'm certainly of the opinion its an interesting concept these days to put a huge fight that transcends the sport on network TV like they used to do back in the day. And I'd love to see it happen, I just don't feel like its a reasonable expectation to have nowadays.
            Mayweather-Pacquiao grossed as much as the Superbowl. It's doable.

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              #26
              Originally posted by about.thousands
              Mayweather-Pacquiao grossed as much as the Superbowl. It's doable.
              How does PPV success equate network TV success? PPV & Network TV aren't the same models. If they were my assumption is we'd have never had these decade long gaps in network TV fights cuz boxing would be making money on PPV & network TV.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                How does PPV success equate network TV success? PPV & Network TV aren't the same models. If they were my assumption is we'd have never had these decade long gaps in network TV fights cuz boxing would be making money on PPV & network TV.
                If 4.5 million people will pay $100 to watch a fight how many do you think will watch it for free? Also American Football is an American sport. Boxing is a global sport.

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                  #28
                  I get that Floyd wants to come back. But who is he going to fight that could provide his guarantee of $100 million?

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by about.thousands
                    If 4.5 million people will pay $100 to watch a fight how many do you think will watch it for free?
                    Idk. That was one of the questions I was asking. Along with how much does whatever million people watching x the revenue via advertisers &/or sponsors = $100M+ in purses + other expenses.

                    Google being my homie & all I can see Mike Tyson averaged about a mill PPV buys per fight his career. With his top #'s being 1.5M-1.9M & he got 40M+ viewers for his fight on Fox vs Buster Mathis back in 1995. Tyson made $10M for that fight. How much advertisers contributed to the revenue or how profitable this fight was or wasn't idk. Thats the stuff I'm more curious about.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by about.thousands
                      Mayweather-Pacquiao grossed as much as the Superbowl. It's doable.
                      The Super Bowl is like a 4-5 hour event (with all day coverage). A boxing match can end in a minute.

                      Mayweather-Pacquiao II won't be as big as the first fight, and if Mayweather fights on CBS it'll probably be against an opponent that isn't as big of a draw as Pacquiao.

                      This speculation sounds a lot like the Bowe-Holyfield III/Tyson-Mathis Jr. situation that didn't end up happening.

                      Boxing matches regularly get postponed or canceled. Injuries and other things happen. Thurman-Porter is a recent example.

                      It's tough to get companies to put up large amounts of money for a fight several months out given all the unpredictability of boxing....especially if they know they're competing with another big fight scheduled for the same day, like Golovkin-Canelo (hypothetically).
                      Last edited by Mitchell Kane; 05-11-2016, 03:15 PM.

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