lets set the record straight on RJJ, who the **** did he dodge ?

[Easy-E]

How so? Even by using A+B = C logic, Baldomir can beat Floyd as he did beat Judah just as decisevly.

Are you on crack???

[Smokin']

Are you ******? Here I'll summarize it for you since you're ******ed as ****.

Just because fighter A beats fighter B does not mean he can beat fighter C. Got it?

[mECHsLAVE]

Are you on crack???

Of course Floyd would be favored but he still needs to fight him. Hatton held the linear championship at 140. Baldomir holds the linear championship at 147. Floyd holds no championships.

See there's basically two different schools of thought in boxing. One, which PB34 and Bozo adhere to is that if you put on nice showcases and make people believe that you CAN beat a fighter then you don't even have to beat them. You can just not fight them and everyone will still think you're better.

I'm from the school of thought that follows championships. You have to win them in the ring, not by LOOKING good against someone else, but by BEATING the champion in the ring. Boxing is not a showcase sport, to me. I don't hold up a card "9.4.. no splash" when I'm watching. It's not a gymnastics performance or something. To be the best, you have to beat the best. If there's a champion in the division, then you can't fight everyone but him and look better than him to become champion. You have to beat the champion. That's why Roy was never a true champion at 175. It's that simple.

[Smokin']

Those are wise words, man. I'm from the same school of thought. Plenty of times throughout history we've seen examples of fighters looking like they are outmatched and outgunned and they have ended up coming up on top. It's incredibly ****** to assure a Jones win over Dairusz when there really is no way of knowing for sure.

[Bozo_no no]

Who suffered the most? Not sure, actually.

This spin job you've put togther here is beyond pathetic.

I don't know how many times I asked you who was the best Light Heavyweight in the world when they were both at Lt Heavy and you continued to answer with "I'm not sure who would have won if they fought", but suggesting Darius' career paralleled anywhere near that of Roy's is a new low. Even for you.

You don't know who's career was worse off for the fight not taking place?

This is getting comical.

If Roy had gone to Germany and beaten Dariusz, then I don't think he would have bothered with Tarver after Ruiz.

Where do you get a comment like this? From right out of your ass? That's got to be the ******est thing said in months.


There's no doubt that Darius' career suffered as he lived in Roy's shadow. Instead he was content to sit in his own back yard and struggle with Roy's leftovers.

[Bozo_no no]

And by the way, Boozo. Here's a lesson on the 'linear' champion in boxing.

Hill was the true linear champ before Michalczewski/Jones even fought him. Jones fought Hill only AFTER Hill had lost his title belts to undefeated Dariusz Michalczewski. Because Hill was considered the true champion at the time, Michalczewski’s defeat of Hill made him the TRUE linear champion, not Jones.

The point all along has been that the "Liniar" title means very little in today's day and age. In some division it's not even clear how it's been transfered.

Today you have fighters winning and splintering titles not wanting to pay sanctioning fees, an unlimited amount of variables.

The entire discussion hasn't been about the Liniar title, it's been about who ducked who between Roy and Darius.

As I've said several times, it comes down to who had more to gain in the fight coming off, and who was ultimatly hurt more by it not coming off.

In both cases it was clearly Darius.

[Bozo_no no]

And you know what the biggest joke about this whole spin job by Mechslave is?

Why don't I hear any crying by you or anyone else about Antonio Tarver needing to fly to Germany to fight Zsolt Erdei?

He is afterall the 'liniar' Light Heavyweight title holder.

[Smokin']

You know what else is funny? Erdei hasn't been calling out Tarver, and Tarver hasn't even called out Erdei. No one wants to see the fight, at least not as much as we wanted Dariusz - Jones.

[Bozo_no no]

You know what else is funny? Erdei hasn't been calling out Tarver, and Tarver hasn't even called out Erdei. No one wants to see the fight, at least not as much as we wanted Dariusz - Jones.

And you know why that is?

Because the Liniar title doesn't mean anything anymore.

I'm glad we can get passed that, because what that does is bring it right back to who lost out on the fight between Darius and Jones not happening, and who would have gained from it.

Funny how that runs constant huh?

[mECHsLAVE]

When have you ever seen me even talk about Tarver hardly? LOL I don't care about Tarver. Yes, the lineage is now with Erdei.

I'd like to see Tarver fight all the top LHW's- Erdei, Adamek, Briggs, etc. Tarver is about $$ only, though. He's very open about it. I have no problem with naked ambition. Tarver doesn't want anyone to think he's the best, and he won't be thought of as a great LHW. He just wants to retire rich. Rather than reclaim his titles he is going after Hopkins coming off of 2 losses, which shows how much Tarver cares about fighting the "best." He's also said he might want Roy again. Might want Tyson. LOL Tarver isn't going to fight the best LHW's. He's going to get paid, however he can.