Do you see Golovkin vs Mayweather EVER happening?

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  • P.K Dionysus
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    #41
    Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
    That statement was made because Mayweather doesn't believe that Golovkin will fight & beat Ward. But if Golovikin did shock Mayweather by fighting & defeating Ward, it wouldn't make a difference. The fact is, Floyd Mayweather will NEVER, EVER fight Gennady Golovkin...NEVER.
    This is straight up opinion, not fact. What is fact is that Floyd gave the one and only stipulation for getting him in the ring with GGG. The best way to make the fight happen is meet that stipulation.

    In my opinion, if GGG and K2 were serious about fighting Floyd, they'd be sending Andre Ward and his team a fight offer immediately after the fight with Kovalev. Time is running out to make the fight as Floyd is rapidly approaching 40, and I doubt he'll come fight again post 2017, so if GGG wants to take Danny's place as the possible opponent, he needs to fight and beat Ward asap.

    We can speculate about all manner of things, about how serious Floyd was when he set the condition, whether or not he'll honour said condition, blah blah blah. Fact is, he said it. Posturing in the media and calling him out repeatedly, quoting that "easy work" comment all the while acting as though he made no mention of GGG having to fight Ward isn't the way to go about getting the fight.
    Last edited by P.K Dionysus; 05-02-2016, 12:14 PM.

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    • Razcal26
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      #42
      Originally posted by KLockard23
      I just demonstrated that fighting Floyd isn't a guaranteed one million, and also brought up points as to why a GGG fight would be guaranteed to generate at least that much. Floyd's #1 drawing power is being the villain that everyone wants to see lose. In fairness to Berto, at least part of the reason his fight with Mayweather flopped was because people had just seen Pacquiao not only lose but get schooled, after years of believing that he was Floyd's conqueror. That likely made a lot of people just realize and accept that no one was likely to ever beat Floyd, and so they didn't give Berto a chance. GGG would reverse that perception and make people believe again that Mayweather could lose.
      You do know what the "norm" means right?

      Lets see, Floyd fights since he beat Oscar:

      Hatton - 920,000
      Marquez - 1,060,000
      Moseley - 1,400,000
      Ortiz - 1,250,000
      Cotto - 1,500,000
      Guerrero - 1,000,000
      Canelo - 2,200,000
      Maidana 1 - 900,000
      Maidana 2 - 925,000
      Pacquiao - 4,600,000
      Berto - 400,000

      When you fight Floyd, it is usually the highest PPV numbers for that fighter. Most often than not, getting 1 mill is the norm.

      You pointing out Berto proves that it is the anomaly. What the hell are you trying to argue?

      Cracking 1 mill with GGG isn't something worth celebrating, it be seen as standard for a Floyd fight.

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      • SUBZER0ED
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        #43
        Originally posted by DionysusX
        This is straight up opinion, not fact. What is fact is that Floyd gave the one and only stipulation for getting him in the ring with GGG. The best way to make the fight happen is meet that stipulation.

        In my opinion, if GGG and K2 were serious about fighting Floyd, they'd be sending Andre Ward and his team a fight offer immediately after the fight with Kovalev. Time is running out to make the fight as Floyd is rapidly approaching 40, and I doubt he'll come fight again post 2017, so if GGG wants to take Danny's place as the possible opponent, he needs to fight and beat Ward asap.

        We can speculate about all manner of things, about how serious Floyd was when he set the condition, whether or not he'll honour said condition, blah blah blah. Fact is, he said it. Posturing in the media and calling him out repeatedly, quoting that "easy work" comment all the while acting as though he made no mention of GGG having to fight Ward isn't the way to go about getting the fight.
        Watch & see if it ever happens. If Golovkin fights & beats Ward, Mayweather will come up with some other BS stipulation or excuse for not fighting GGG. Besides that, Golovkin wants to fight Mayweather, to take his "0", but he doesn't need him. If they did fight, & Golovkin won, Floyd's supporters would say that he was too small & too old anyway (which is true), so what's the point?

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        • therealpugilist
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          #44
          Originally posted by K-Nan
          I mean, in some remotely far-fetched scenario even? I know it's not likely but then again- Floyd loves money, and no fight on the planet makes more money than this one would.

          Personally I don't see it happening because its an extremely risky fight for Floyd, even if he sets a catchweight (very likely).
          do you ever see GGG moving up?

          do you see him fighting a top 5 middleweight this year?

          these are more relevant questions and my answers are i doubt it....same goes for your mayweather ?

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            #45
            Originally posted by K-Nan
            Meh at this point its High risk, VERY HIGH reward. Particularly if it's for the lineal title at 160
            sounds good...very high risk, reward...idk....GGG should beat floyd, hell it'll be like fighting a teenager for GGG size and strength wise.....but GGG wont fight below 160 for Canelo but will for a guy who started at 130.....lame

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            • JJRod
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              #46
              Not a chance. If his PPV had sold 500k and his hbo ratings were at 2 million viewers it could be entertained. Since they're not I don't see it.

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              • KLockard23
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                #47
                Originally posted by Razcal26
                You do know what the "norm" means right?

                Lets see, Floyd fights since he beat Oscar:

                Hatton - 920,000
                Marquez - 1,060,000
                Moseley - 1,400,000
                Ortiz - 1,250,000
                Cotto - 1,500,000
                Guerrero - 1,000,000
                Canelo - 2,200,000
                Maidana 1 - 900,000
                Maidana 2 - 925,000
                Pacquiao - 4,600,000
                Berto - 400,000

                When you fight Floyd, it is usually the highest PPV numbers for that fighter. Most often than not, getting 1 mill is the norm.

                You pointing out Berto proves that it is the anomaly. What the hell are you trying to argue?

                Cracking 1 mill with GGG isn't something worth celebrating, it be seen as standard for a Floyd fight.
                The hell's your point, son? I was just saying that a GGG fight would definitely be over one million buys, I wasn't arguing that it would the biggest fight of Mayweather's career or anything. No need to over-analyze simple comments. Other than a Pacquiao or Canelo rematch, who else would be a bigger and better opponent for Floyd than GGG?

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                • P.K Dionysus
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
                  Watch & see if it ever happens. If Golovkin fights & beats Ward, Mayweather will come up with some other BS stipulation or excuse for not fighting GGG. Besides that, Golovkin wants to fight Mayweather, to take his "0", but he doesn't need him. If they did fight, & Golovkin won, Floyd's supporters would say that he was too small & too old anyway (which is true), so what's the point?
                  Your low opinion of Floyd means you're predisposed to expect the worst of him and not give him the benefit of the doubt, or even remain neutral/unbiased about it all.

                  I personally have a low opinion of GGG's insistence on fighting part time dock workers and cab drivers who supplement their income by boxing. But I believe that if he truly wants to fight Floyd and get the massive payday that it would bring, then he will stop with the posturing, the hypocrisy and double standards and just fight and defeat Andre Ward.

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                  • K-Nan
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by therealpugilist
                    do you ever see GGG moving up?

                    do you see him fighting a top 5 middleweight this year?

                    these are more relevant questions and my answers are i doubt it....same goes for your mayweather ?
                    Take the hate to another thread... I'm only concerned with non-biased debate here

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                    • K-Nan
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by JrRod
                      Not a chance. If his PPV had sold 500k and his hbo ratings were at 2 million viewers it could be entertained. Since they're not I don't see it.
                      What if he beats Canelo?

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