Comments Thread For: Canelo's Coach: Golovkin Has Beaten Nobody, Lower Level Foes!

[Raonic]

I never understood this argument. All fighters go through this process. They face a bunch of no names, then go on to face top 10 fighters in the divisions they fight in, then face the best of the best in that division.

GGG is at that last step. He's been looking for the top fighters in the division he's fought in. Martinez, Canelo, Cotto and all the other title holders out there. They've all avoided him.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

But by the same token if Golovkin is so good then why doesn't he just go to 155 and beat Canelo?

This is a guy that is supposed to be a special talent...that his own team has said would fight anyone from 154 to 168 pounds....so why doesn't he just go kick Alvarez' butt under Alvarez' own terms and build himself a real legend and legacy?

Why does he have to be weight drained...


For floyd yes, because floyd brings in more than double of what Canelo brings..


Realize canelo has never broken a million buys without floyd..
Him vs Cotto was supposed to be the biggest fight and couldn't break a million, yet manny and floyd both broke a million woth Cotto...
Canelo as the A-side only bring 300k buys... Angulo, Lara, kirkland,, none were blockbusters...

Canelo v ggg... Canelo should get the bigger purse, but GGG shouldn't be weight drained just so they can do 500k... If Canelo was floyd and you bring 1 mil+ then get weight drained.. But Canelo is literally half the star floyd or manny or Oscar was..

If I'm ggg, I don't budge, let the bytch Canelo get stripped, ggg will tale that belt, and fight any mw that will tangle, like Jacobs, j-rock, etc....

Canelo is nowhere near the stardom you need to demand weight drains

And yes ggg tried to weight drain Ward, but they in seperate weight classes,, Canelo is the ****ing champ at middleweight but is scared to fight another mw

[titan m]

Canelo is obviously a JMW.

You can spin it however you like, but it won't change anything.

Canelo is OBVIOUSLY a JMW who can still make 154, as proven by his 30-day, and 7-day, weigh-in.

They fight at 155 out of entitlement, just like they did at 150 when Canelo was a welter..... and Reynoso has explained why on numerous occasions.

They do it to preserve Canelo's career.

It is downright unprofessional, no question...... but does that magically turn Canelo into a middleweight, despite the fact that he has never fought AT middleweight, and never fought A middleweight?

Only if you have Golovjizz in your eyes..... it is 1lb over JMW, FFS.

Canelo will be much stronger at 160.

You're the one trying to spin it, what I said was a fact and correct me if I'm wrong but I think last time Canelo had a fight scheduled at 154 he missed weight. I wont bother getting into the middleweight champion thing again because you'll say hes the A-side or something, which is a ridiculous excuse but yes, holding a middleweight title and being between 154 and 160 for 3 years does turn him into a middleweight.

[mick1303]

Who cares ?

Those situations are identical.

In both situations..... a boxer attempted to disadvantage his opponent on the scale, and both justified the catchweight demand by stating that they are the A-side.

The principle is identical in both situations.

Oh, unless you happen to have Golovjizz in your eyes.

"Who cares" is a cop out argument. Obviously Canelo and his handlers do care. Just watch him pay WBC sanctioning fees for his middleweight belt. And one more thing - if you want to be considered at least somewhat normal - stop with this "Golovjizz" language...

[zerosixthree]

Nah, that's bull****.

They know Ward can't make 164.

That was a convenient way to duck that fight.

If that was " fair ", then GGG better start chewing lettuce for Canelo.

This is what Loeffler said.....


Loeffler feels that Golovkin is the A-side in any negotiations with Ward, which means they would expect to get a good deal from the negotiations. However, it’s a doable fight as long as Ward is A. willing to accept a 50-50 deal. B Agreeable to a 164lb catch-weight. C. is ready to fight.


But look what happens when I change the names ONLY.....


Loeffler feels that Canelo is the A-side in any negotiations with Golovkin, which means they would expect to get a good deal from the negotiations. However, it’s a doable fight as long as Golovkin is A. willing to accept a 50-50 deal. B Agreeable to a catch-weight. C. is ready to fight.

One side wants everything their own way..... and that side is NOT the A-side when it comes to Canelo.

They pulled that A-side bull**** to disadvantage an opponent on the scales..... now they wanna hide behind the integrity of boxing..... despite the fact that they OBVIOUSLY do not give a flying fat fk about the integrity of boxing.

Do you care about the integrity of boxing?

[TSS]

Very true that Little Gina has only fought bums throughout his career while Canelo has been fighting top-tier opponents like Floyd, Trout, Cotto, Lara, and now Khan.

[mick1303]

B-hop just became a canelo-tard who don't know **** about boxing..... just like breadman did yesterday LMAO

Mayweather said the exact same thing, so he can sit in the DKSAB-corner with Hopkins and breadman

Hopkins is a business partner of DLH. Need I say more? His "opinion" can only be seen as PR. Money talks... When he was "a rebel", he sounded a lot like GGG... But then he went mainstream and became a part of establishment. He is not the first and will not be the last....

[mick1303]

Canelo has had to pay his dues and thus has earned the right to not concede any advantages.

Golovkin by comparison has had very easy quality of opposition. As far as I'm concerned he can dare to be great and accept Canelo's conditions...or he can fuck off.

This "dare to be great" is extremely convenient slogan ))) If you're afraid of the fighter, lets start a campaign that said fighter should go somewhere else and "dare to be great". Just not here and now. Just leave my favorite alone...

[ShoulderRoll]

This "dare to be great" is extremely convenient slogan ))) If you're afraid of the fighter, lets start a campaign that said fighter should go somewhere else and "dare to be great". Just not here and now. Just leave my favorite alone...

Canelo has had to concede on weight in order to get the fights he wanted. Canelo has also had to concede on the purse in order to get the fights he wanted.

The guy didn't cry about it, he just did it. He saw an opportunity to try for greatness and he went for it.

Sometimes when the dream won't come any closer on it's own you have to step forward yourself and run after it.

[MDPopescu]

Canelo has had to concede on weight in order to get the fights he wanted. Canelo has also had to concede on the purse in order to get the fights he wanted.

The guy didn't cry about it, he just did it. He saw an opportunity to try for greatness and he went for it.

Sometimes when the dream won't come any closer on it's own you have to step forward yourself and run after it.

Canelo wasn't somebody's 'mando' as I remember. He was a 23 years old kid speaking no English but promoted by Oscar.
Canelo (with or without his 'greatness') has to fight next the WBC mandatory at 160.
No fight, no greatness.