Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Promoter: If Kell Brook is Serious, We Can Discuss It

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[BillyBoxing]

I'm a GGG fan but this **** is getting ******.

Let at least Brook beat someone at 154, fack those 2 divisions up.

[Bronx2245]

April 27, 2016:

Hopkins believes that if Golovkin truly wants to mix it up with Alvarez as much as has been suggested, he’d monitor his diet and training regimen in such a way that he could and would get down to the 155-pound catch weight that Canelo demanded, and is getting, for his May 9 defense against Amir Khan (31-3, 19 KOs) at the new T-Mobile Center in Vegas. Alvarez has said that all future challengers will have to consent to a similar arrangement if they want to be given a spot on his dance card. But Loeffler believes a middleweight championship fight should be fought at the middleweight limit of 160 pounds, and he and Golovkin consider that point to be non-negotiable...

But Hopkins knows a thing or two about leverage, and as a key figure in the Golden Boy hierarchy he doesn’t want Golovkin’s inexorable march toward his record to include a conquest of Alvarez, 25, who is the linchpin to the company’s long-term success. If the big fight happens, and Hopkins hopes it will, all well and good. Still, the fight before the fight takes place behind closed doors where contractual matters are finalized. If there is a possible parallel between Alvarez-Golovkin, Hopkins sees it as the April 6, 1987, pairing of Sugar Ray Leonard and Marvelous Marvin Hagler, with Canelo cast in the role of the terms-dictating Leonard.

“If Steph Curry don’t play in the playoffs, his team is probably not going to repeat as the champion,” Hopkins said. “Canelo is like Steph Curry to Golden Boy. Of course we’re going to position him in such a way to maximize all his assets. But in saying that, you got to remember one thing: We don’t need `Triple G.’ He needs Canelo. At the end of the day, the fighter that holds all the cards would be a fool not to use that.

“Look, Oscar has or might make some decisions he might be criticized for – no, he will be criticized for – but so what? He is in the business of being a promoter. As a fighter, he dared to be great. As a promoter, he can’t dare to be ******. He has to make the right business move for his fighter, and the fact is that `Triple G’ stands to gain more from winning that fight. Of course, if Canelo wins, he becomes even more of a megastar than he already is. But he’s a megastar already...

“There will be a dialogue, a negotiation, and when it happens `Triple G’ won’t be operating from a position of strength. Look, I can remember when I couldn’t get the fights I wanted for a lot of reasons. Some of it was political. Some of it was personal. When push comes to shove, though, you do what you have to do.

“When I was the (light heavyweight) champion, I had to take off five pounds to make the Winky Wright fight, the Kelly Pavlik fight. I had a catch weight fight with Oscar when I had three middleweight championship belts and Bob Arum (then De La Hoya’s promoter) said the only way that fight would ever happen is if I agreed to come in at no more than 158 pounds. I could have *****ed and hollered about sweating off the extra weight, but I wanted the fight to happen. Was the money great? Yes. But I wanted to fight the best, and if I beat Oscar, God only knows what could happen after that. And, well, we know now what happened next...”

But the devil is always in the details, isn’t it? It just might be that the most-anticipated middleweight unification clash since Hopkins-Felix Trinidad in 2001 hinges on the loss or addition of a few precious pounds of flesh by whichever champion comes to the conclusion that making the bout at a less-than-optimal weight is far better than not making it at all.

http://www.thesweetscience.com/news/...most-happened-

[kavi521]

Is brook using another fighters name again?

Bit fed up with Brook as he's not a bad fighter but seems to like to talk about fights rather than fight. Last few months i've heard him talk about GGG, Danny Garcia, Amir Khan and Cotto.

[justinussery87]

Not me, it's a dumb fight and Brook is an overrated joke

But the ridiculous people who said GGG was ducking brook will whine even more if he fights him

Brook and overrated joke? How is he overrated? What do you think of Shawn Porter? I disagree. I think he's a great boxer.

[thack]

The idea is ****** just as Canelo v Khan, the welterweight division should be rocking as there are so many quality fights to be made.....f..k the 'catch' weights they are just a bad excuse for a good fair match up.

[jqSide]

Is brook using another fighters name again?

Bit fed up with Brook as he's not a bad fighter but seems to like to talk about fights rather than fight. Last few months i've heard him talk about GGG, Danny Garcia, Amir Khan and Cotto.

Yep. That's all it is. It's out of frustration because Khan ignored him again for the nth time and is fighting Canelo, instead, at an alien weight. So Brook had to show he can do what Khan did.

Of course, the GG fight won't happen. At least now he'll be in check and stop fighting Bizier level opponents, hopefully.

I don't think fans would bash him for not trying to make the GG fight happen. They'll bash him for trying to cherrypick the likes of Rios, Gavin, etc.

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Brook and overrated joke? How is he overrated? What do you think of Shawn Porter? I disagree. I think he's a great boxer.

His entire career is beating Shawn Porter, who is an "OK" fighter, but it's been a long time since then, and there was nothing before it.

Brook's hype and rankings were truly baffling to me -- he is mediocre in every way -- until I realized that with Manny and Floyd retiring, the casual fans who only watch 147 simply fell into his lap.

A fighter with the same resume in any other weight division would be relegated to untelevised undercards.

[Shadoww702]

1st Brook has to get by Vargas in July/August.

[LetOutTheCage]

The Golovkin camp need to get their act together because they keep contradicting themselves in every other interview and it's becoming embarrassing