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  • aboutfkntime
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    #41
    Originally posted by CaneloMaidana
    It's payback for ducking.

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    • Gil Diaz
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      #42
      GGG will Ko Canelo whenever they fight and everyone knows this. All the arguments, dissertations, examples, won't matter once they get in the ring. Canelo walks around at 190, trains for 3 months to get down to 155 and comes into his fights at 170-175 lbs. Then he insists that he is not a real middleweight and people support this madness. I am not sure if Golovkin really turned down Ward, but I do know it is a high risk for small return. Had he killed himself to make 154 and fought Floyd I could understand because of the $$$ he could make. Hell, everybody/anybody would love to fight Floyd regardless of weight class because of the money they could make. I say let Golovkin fight and defend his MW titles against any and all comers, just like Hagler and Hopkins did for years. If somebody at MW beats him, fine, if not then let him clean house.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Dean_Razorback
        but ggg didn't go up to 168 lbs, he stayed at mw, canelo moved up for cotto and now is the mw champion. 2 different scenarios

        Nope, Canelo is a JMW who fights at 155.

        He did not move anywhere for Cotto.

        Khan is next.

        No middleweight in sight bro.

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          #44
          Originally posted by TheCell8
          Did Golovkin create his own weight class and hold a 168lb belt hostage at 163?

          No, he created his own weight-class at 164, and held a SMW hostage.

          Which is the exact same thing to a genuine boxing fan, because this issue is about fighters/weight, not titles.

          Plenty of titles have been won at catchweight.

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          • bambam182
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            #45
            Originally posted by sterilizer
            GGG said "I will fight ANYONE from 154 to 168".
            But when it comes to being more specific, he says he will fight:
            Froch or Chavez Jr. at 168.
            Ward at 164
            Canelo at 160 "no less than that"
            Floyd at 154.

            If he would have just said: "I will fight anyone from 154 to 168 pounds, as long as I am the one who chooses the specific weight according to the specific opponent" then he would not be in trouble as he is right now. He may be a beast at 160, but he is not believable at any other weight, because he hasn't actually fought anyone of note out of 160. So his "challenge" is just hype. If he was for real, he would have fought Ward at 168 and he would be ecstatic at fighting Canelo at 155.
            exactly. its funny how people defended pacs 154 win though at a catchweight but those same dont like canelos.. but for GGG to fight at a 164 catchweight is ok. canelo wanting catchweight no, GGG wanting ward catchweight yes.

            only thing GGG fans try to argue is about belts. so what pac and may both fought titles at cactwehgihts. no one *****ed when de la hoya and hopkins fought at a catcwehgiht. its just GGG fans being sour little *****es.

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            • spanishboxing
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              #46
              Ppl here just write only what will help em win a argument..this is just a PR move by GB to tak some heat away from Mr 155..as for da Ward 3G situation..y'all all know it..but only mention what helps one win da argument..1st Ward turndown a fight with 3G at 168 wen HBO ask him few yrs back..2nd no one signs a contract to fight some1 almost 2 yrs later..3rd da 164 CW 3G team offer Ward was *****..Ward has right to say no..but since ppl here take every statement fighters say to serious..Ward did say he do 160 for floyd just like 3G said he do 154 jr mw for floyd too..however Ward didn't had to..as for da Canelo 3G situation..3g is da mando he doesn't have to do 155..vacate or fight..yes 3g can say fck it n do 55..but he doesn't have to..3g team did mention that they'll do CW for a non title fight vs Canelo..why not take that statement serious...last thing...if 3G is a hype..why is it that da only fighter most here say can beat GGG is da one fighter most ppl see as da best p4p fighter( ward ) wen active..says a lot about how good 3g is wen Ward is da only one doesn't it..?...oh 3G beats Canelo at any weight..Canelo only advantage is his size vs small stationary targets..vs GGG he has no advantage..canelo is just a name..he a decent fighter..but ones he starts fighting guys his size he will get da Chávez jr treatment..

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                #47
                Originally posted by sterilizer
                GGG said "I will fight ANYONE from 154 to 168".
                But when it comes to being more specific, he says he will fight:
                Froch or Chavez Jr. at 168.
                Ward at 164
                Canelo at 160 "no less than that"
                Floyd at 154.

                If he would have just said: "I will fight anyone from 154 to 168 pounds, as long as I am the one who chooses the specific weight according to the specific opponent" then he would not be in trouble as he is right now. He may be a beast at 160, but he is not believable at any other weight, because he hasn't actually fought anyone of note out of 160. So his "challenge" is just hype. If he was for real, he would have fought Ward at 168 and he would be ecstatic at fighting Canelo at 155.

                Exactly !

                And they would be chasing Cotto as well.

                Team Bull**** hoodwinked the fans.

                Gennady's Gullible Groupies are dumb as fk !

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by HeroBando
                  155 for a mando and 3 MW belts + lineal is just disrespectful to boxing, cong**** on defending that. Here's their 100% correct position re Canelo: vacate and a CW is in play

                  http://www.boxingscene.com/team-golo...vacate--100824

                  You are an utter ****** for 2 reasons.....

                  1) for believing that rubbish. If Team Bull**** thought they could beat Canelo at 155, they would just fight him..... smarten up!

                  2) that BULL**** "offer" said..... maybe, down the road, in 2017.

                  Now, that is the EXACT offer that Ward made Golovkin, except he was talking mid-2016, and you dopey asshats stated that was absurd...... how can anyone offer someone a fight next year, how dumb, blah, blah.... that is EXACTLY what you said.

                  #moron

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                  • aboutfkntime
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by spanishboxing
                    Ppl here just write only what will help em win a argument..this is just a PR move by GB to tak some heat away from Mr 155..as for da Ward 3G situation..y'all all know it..but only mention what helps one win da argument..1st Ward turndown a fight with 3G at 168 wen HBO ask him few yrs back..2nd no one signs a contract to fight some1 almost 2 yrs later..3rd da 164 CW 3G team offer Ward was *****..Ward has right to say no..but since ppl here take every statement fighters say to serious..Ward did say he do 160 for floyd just like 3G said he do 154 jr mw for floyd too..however Ward didn't had to..as for da Canelo 3G situation..3g is da mando he doesn't have to do 155..vacate or fight..yes 3g can say fck it n do 55..but he doesn't have to..3g team did mention that they'll do CW for a non title fight vs Canelo..why not take that statement serious...last thing...if 3G is a hype..why is it that da only fighter most here say can beat GGG is da one fighter most ppl see as da best p4p fighter( ward ) wen active..says a lot about how good 3g is wen Ward is da only one doesn't it..?...oh 3G beats Canelo at any weight..Canelo only advantage is his size vs small stationary targets..vs GGG he has no advantage..canelo is just a name..he a decent fighter..but ones he starts fighting guys his size he will get da Chávez jr treatment..

                    Nah, that's bull****.

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                    • HeroBando
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by bambam182
                      exactly. its funny how people defended pacs 154 win though at a catchweight but those same dont like canelos.. but for GGG to fight at a 164 catchweight is ok. canelo wanting catchweight no, GGG wanting ward catchweight yes.

                      only thing GGG fans try to argue is about belts. so what pac and may both fought titles at cactwehgihts. no one *****ed when de la hoya and hopkins fought at a catcwehgiht. its just GGG fans being sour little *****es.
                      It's one thing asking for a CW coming up in weight vs a champ. Champs demanding CWs in their own division, much more rare and lamer. And nobody demands a CW vs mando. Nobody demands a lowest CW possible. And nobody demands a CW when outweighing the Challenger fight night. Canelo is a whole another level of CW fraud

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