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  • #11
    Originally posted by daggum View Post
    blah blah blah
    Who said I didn't like GGG? Because I don't buy into his BS blindly like you do?

    A guy who has he is all about the belts yet has allowed step aside money and voluntary fight? Nah.

    Wanted to fight Froch and JCC jr at 168, tried to CW Ward at 164. Nah, not buying it.

    I would far more respect if he had said that he wanted to fight those two guys first before fighting the best at 168, then cool, makes sense. But that didn't happen.

    Not buying into the BS.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by MDPopescu View Post
      1) Lemieux fought him only because ODLH ordered him to...
      2) Ward fought Paul Smith and after "the GGG situation" he started to chase Murdock and Periban... gimme a break...
      And Ward was slammed for that bull****

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      • #13
        I don't hate him but just wish his fans would acknowledge that he is a businessman, not an idol of boxing.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Razcal26 View Post
          Who said I didn't like GGG? Because I don't buy into his BS blindly like you do?

          A guy who has he is all about the belts yet has allowed step aside money and voluntary fight? Nah.

          Wanted to fight Froch and JCC jr at 168, tried to CW Ward at 164. Nah, not buying it.

          I would far more respect if he had said that he wanted to fight those two guys first before fighting the best at 168, then cool, makes sense. But that didn't happen.

          Not buying into the BS.
          he tried to fight ward at 168 when ward was teh a-side and ward said no. you think ggg wants to fight at 168? he only agreed to those other fights because those guys were the a-side. once again completely missing the point and the economic factors involved in each fight.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
            I don't hate him but just wish his fans would acknowledge that he is a businessman, not an idol of boxing.
            every boxer is a businessman lol. thatas like criticizing him for breathing air. some people are more reasonable businessman like ggg and are willing to fight as the b-side when they acutally are the b-side and some people like ward want to be the a-side no matter what reality says. that is the difference here but no one calls ward out for it.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
              I don't hate him but just wish his fans would acknowledge that he is a businessman, not an idol of boxing.
              This is very true..they tried to say the same thing about Manny(they are the same people of course) that he fights for the fans and his country bla bla bla...THEY ARE ALL BUSINESSMEN ..THEY FIGHT FOR MONEY!!!

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              • #17
                Because his skin is as light as the sun that shines before night.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by daggum View Post
                  every boxer is a businessman lol. thatas like criticizing him for breathing air. some people are more reasonable businessman like ggg and are willing to fight as the b-side when they acutally are the b-side and some people like ward want to be the a-side no matter what reality says. that is the difference here but no one calls ward out for it.
                  Why would Ward think he is the B-side to GGG?? I never got that argument..there really is no A or B side there at all.its a 50/50 type of fight period..but hey we are beyond that now so no need even discussing that any further

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by daggum View Post
                    he tried to fight ward at 168 when ward was teh a-side and ward said no. you think ggg wants to fight at 168? he only agreed to those other fights because those guys were the a-side. once again completely missing the point and the economic factors involved in each fight.
                    No, he didn't. Didn't want to fight Ward.

                    Don't care about his finances, he doesn't pay me.

                    Fact of the matter is, this "only boxing" act him, his team and his "fans" try to put up is noting but a front.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by daggum View Post
                      he never said he wasn't willing to fight ward. you simply made that up. look at the facts. he tried to fight ward. ward said no. ward tried to dictate to ggg and tell him what to do and ggg laughed. same way floyd would laugh fi someone said hey flyod give me 50-50 and fight me in 15 months. why is it any differenent? econmics don't change. its so strange coming from people who for the last decade have been the economic crusaders talking about splits left and right. now it doesn't matter one bit?

                      this is why you have no credibility. you can't change your positions constantly and expect to be taken seriously. either economics matter or they don't so which is it? please make up your mind. ggg has proven that when he is the b-side he will take b-side money. ward has not. yet you blame ggg? wtf?
                      I didn't mention Ward's name. Stop trying to deflect to a race based economic argument. GGG is not a star of Floyd's magnitude and still hasn't fought anyone decent yet, to pretend otherwise makes little sense.

                      You are arguing something other than I posted as a race based deflection to try and make it seem like any criticism of GGG is routed in race bias so you can avoid the very fair criticism since you have no valid way to justify GGG and his teams terrible resume.

                      The only one changing their position relative to economics is you. You never liked guys that took money over challenge yet you love GGG. You also never liked fighters with weak resumes yet you love GGG.

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