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  • OnePunch
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    #81
    Originally posted by Chollo Vista
    I have to disagree here.

    Loeffler thinks Jacobs is more of a threat than Canelo.

    Jacobs is big and can without a doubt punch. GGG can't fight Jacobs like he fought Monroe and he can't box Jacobs like he boxed Pepe lapew... GGG has never faced someone like Jacobs that possesses such power in both hands and that can box.

    Since GGG showed up on the scene, Daniel Jacobs is the only #1 Ring rated MW that their team hasn't actively sought after.

    They had no issues asking for bouts against Martinez, Quillin, Cotto and Canelo. Heck, they've gone out of their way to make matches no one was really clamoring for. But all of a sudden you have the next biggest fight on the horizon and all of a sudden Tom Loeffler doesn't want to attempt to engage or call Jacobs out in the media for ducking like he's done with a plethora of other fighters?

    I think they see something in Jacobs that they don't like

    Are you brain dead? You remind me of my 6 year old nephew who stands there with his fingers in his ears saying "lalalalalalalala I cant hear you!!!!!"

    in the months since the Lemieux fight, K2 / GGG has had only 2 options: Unify with Saunders or Canelo, or do the IBF mando with Johnson, Wade, or whoever. For the past 5 months, those were his only options. Period. A Jacobs fight is NOT a unification, and would result in GGG getting stripped of the IBF belt he just won. Now we all know that YOU claim that the belts dont matter, and maybe to YOU they dont, but they seem to matter quite a bit to the fighters, which is why GGG wants to keep the IBF belt, and why Canelo is paying a sanction fee for the Khan fight.

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    • Chollo Vista
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      #82
      Originally posted by OnePunch
      Are you brain dead? You remind me of my 6 year old nephew who stands there with his fingers in his ears saying "lalalalalalalala I cant hear you!!!!!"

      in the months since the Lemieux fight, K2 / GGG has had only 2 options: Unify with Saunders or Canelo, or do the IBF mando with Johnson, Wade, or whoever. For the past 5 months, those were his only options. Period. A Jacobs fight is NOT a unification, and would result in GGG getting stripped of the IBF belt he just won. Now we all know that YOU claim that the belts dont matter, and maybe to YOU they dont, but they seem to matter quite a bit to the fighters, which is why GGG wants to keep the IBF belt, and why Canelo is paying a sanction fee for the Khan fight.
      Do you think that by insulting me that will make me change my stance of "The guys GGG fights will build his legacy, not the belts"?

      Maybe this why you failed at business in boxing miserably. You just don't get it.

      If we were having this conversation in the 80's back when there were only 3 belts, maybe you would have a point. Fact of the matter is, contemporary belts really don't mean anything. Everyone has a belt and the system is watered down. The belts have never built anyone's legacy; fighter's do.

      I would much prefer GGG fight Jacobs and get rid of the IBF as oppose to fighting Wade and keeping it.

      So stop your lying about GGG having only two options. Any and everything in boxing is negotiable. Saunders has said for the past year they won't fight GGG so why was he an option in the first place when he already said NO?? Do you not know what no means?

      No one cares about these belts. Put it this way, next time you respond to me, don't say anything about any belts because I'll ask you to take his belts and shove them up your ass.
      Last edited by Chollo Vista; 04-20-2016, 07:18 PM.

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        #83
        Originally posted by Chollo Vista
        Do you think that by insulting me that will make me change my stance of "The guys GGG fights will build his legacy, not the belts"?

        Maybe this why you failed at business in boxing miserably. You just don't get it.

        If we were having this conversation in the 80's back when there were only 3 belts, maybe you would have a point. Fact of the matter is, contemporary belts really don't mean anything. Everyone has a belt and the system is watered down. The belts have never built anyone's legacy; fighter's do.

        I would much prefer GGG fight Jacobs and get rid of the IBF as oppose to fighting Wade and keeping it.

        So stop your lying about GGG having only two options. Any and everything in boxing is negotiable. Saunders has said for the past year they won't fight GGG so why was he an option in the first place when he already said NO?? Do you not know what no means?

        No one cares about these belts. Put it this way, next time you respond to me, don't say anything about any belts because I'll ask you to take his belts and shove them up your ass.
        Really,you know something no one else does. Like that Jacobs wanted to fight GGG this fight? Oh, no he did not. Thats right.

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          #84
          Originally posted by Progrssive_Jedi
          Really,you know something no one else does. Like that Jacobs wanted to fight GGG this fight? Oh, no he did not. Thats right.
          Jacobs has only asked for fair money.

          What's fair money? No one knows until they all come to the table and sort it out.

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            #85
            Originally posted by Chollo Vista
            Jacobs has only asked for fair money.

            What's fair money? No one knows until they all come to the table and sort it out.
            What does ggg gain from fighting Jacobs? You already know his stance on what his goal is but what does beating Jacobs add to his resume? Fame? Fortune? Glory? He doesn't get any of that because Jacob is still relatively unknown and you know it.

            Why should ggg pursue that fight when Jacobs can force that fight easily if he wanted but you keep looking past it and put the blame on ggg team for the fight not happening.

            It starting to sound like your on Jacobs promoting team cause you keep repeating the same thing in every one of ggg thread.

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            • Chollo Vista
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              #86
              Originally posted by cork
              What does ggg gain from fighting The Ring's #1 Middleweight? You already know his stance on what his goal is but what does beating the Ring's #1 rated MW add to his resume? Fame? Fortune? Glory?
              Fixed it for you

              I'm glad you asked these questions for it adds all the above.

              Great points

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              • cork
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                #87
                Originally posted by Chollo Vista
                Fixed it for you

                I'm glad you asked these questions for it adds all the above.

                Great points
                Not gonna respond to you anymore about this subject because your clearly not thinking straight but Jacobs being the #1 mw according to ring is the equivalent to wade being rank #3 by ibf.

                Yes even beating the "#1 mw" names Jacobs won't do anything for ggg. Jacobs won't give him a career high payday, doesn't have a belt he wants and won't even gain notoriety from the public because he's still unknown. And yes most people who knows somewhat of boxing knows Jacobs isn't the #1 mw.

                But its ok it's ggg fault for the fight not happening but not Jacobs when he have the mando spot for the fight and doesnt force it unless the "finance is right", but it's ggg fault for not making every fight possible.

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                • OnePunch
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Chollo Vista
                  Do you think that by insulting me that will make me change my stance of "The guys GGG fights will build his legacy, not the belts"?

                  Maybe this why you failed at business in boxing miserably. You just don't get it.

                  If we were having this conversation in the 80's back when there were only 3 belts, maybe you would have a point. Fact of the matter is, contemporary belts really don't mean anything. Everyone has a belt and the system is watered down. The belts have never built anyone's legacy; fighter's do.

                  I would much prefer GGG fight Jacobs and get rid of the IBF as oppose to fighting Wade and keeping it.


                  So stop your lying about GGG having only two options. Any and everything in boxing is negotiable. Saunders has said for the past year they won't fight GGG so why was he an option in the first place when he already said NO?? Do you not know what no means?

                  No one cares about these belts. Put it this way, next time you respond to me, don't say anything about any belts because I'll ask you to take his belts and shove them up your ass.
                  problem is that nobody cares what YOU prefer. GGG wants to keep his IBF belt, and Canelo wants to keep his WBC belt. Thats why they pay all that $$$$ in sanction fees dummy

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by OnePunch
                    Thats total BS. Loeffler said on numerous occasions that the Ward offer was received AFTER they had committed to the Lemieux fight. Ward claimed he sent it before, and threatened to release emails to prove it, but oddly he never released those emails. Hmmmmm, I wonder why........

                    Ward, and Roc Nation, BOTH confirmed that they had no idea the Lemieux fight was about to be signed. They are the two parties I am referring to.

                    I don't see a conspiracy here, that is just a convenient excuse.

                    And it does not change the fact that Loeffler turned them down in 25 minutes flat..... 25 minutes flat means that he barely even read the offer, and he certainly did not discuss it with Sanchez/Golovkin.

                    They turned Ward down, and said " maybe 2017 "..... despite having NOTHING else lined up, and very little chance of a meaningful fight on the horizon.

                    And you know as well as I do that top promoters work 2-3 fights ahead with their star guys..... and yet they wouldn't even consider putting Ward on Golovkin's dance-card, LIKE KOVALEV DID.

                    Kovalev/Ward will happen because Kovalev is interested in that fight..... Golovkin/Ward will not happen, because Golovkin is not interested in that fight..... he wants Ward to "wait", just like Canelo wants Golovkin to "wait".

                    You know whats up.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Steve plunger
                      Golovkin would wipe his ass with canelos face you silly sheep shagger .....so he is being protected....being fed chinny fighters who has Ben dragged up two divisions...and I would fancy spence to do a number in him..overrated and ....yes you got it..protectedddddd
                      Ward would wipe his ass with Golovkin's face you silly sheep shagger .....so he is being protected....being fed chinny fighters who has Ben dragged up two divisions...and I would fancy Ward to do a number in him..overrated and ....yes you got it..protectedddddd[/QUOTE]


                      You are a tool for thinking that Spence beats Canelo.

                      If Spence can beat Canelo, he would sure-as-hell wipe his ass with Pac.

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