The Span of Floyd's Prime

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  • therealpugilist
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    #21
    Originally posted by PivotandRoll
    And Nas's career ended and he became a fat reject after finally fighting a top guy....XD You suck at trolling
    Why do people act like Naz never fought anyone?

    Wilfredo Vazquez was a top fight and 3 division titleholder

    Vuyuni Bungu was borderline p4p at the time and him moving up to fight Naz was a big deal

    Kevin Kelly had one loss and almost 50 fights. He brought money to the little guys before Naz

    Manuel Medina won a piece of the featherweight title 5 times and after he lost to Naz

    come on man, I think you're trolling too

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      #22
      Originally posted by Bravado
      I think he fell out of his competitive prime after Ortiz. Once his leaping hook started to look poor i knew he was slowing down. Once his pull counter started to look like a telegraphed punch i knew it was done. So i'd say like after Ortiz.
      He was well prepared for Canelo...we went to a fight Party and my friends were like isnt this MFer like 36? How in the hell is he so quick and those reflexes?

      I feel exactly as you do bro.....Ortiz the last hurrah....he actually threw multiple combos, was sharp offensively but his leaping left hook and pull counter havent been as sharp for years.

      He dusted them off for Berto and forgot he was an aging fighter vs canelo...styling on em

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      • deathofaclown
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        #23
        I've always said there's a noticeable difference from the Marquez fight onwards.

        His speed and reflexes seemed to decline after that. They were still excellent attributes of course but not quite as sharp as that Marquez fight. I know people will say it was an out of shape fat Marquez or whatever but you can still see a difference in Floyd.

        I think great fighters usually have one last great performance in them and it was probably the Canelo fight.

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        • FeFist
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          #24
          He peaked at 140lb or in 2007 depending on how you look at things. Competitively, he was at his absolute best at 140lb; he had a combination of power, speed, endurance and experience. He had those attributes plus more experience in 07, but as a welterweight some of his physical attributes were less exceptional.

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          • therealpugilist
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            #25
            Originally posted by FeFist
            He peaked at 140lb or in 2007 depending on how you look at things. Competitively, he was at his absolute best at 140lb; he had a combination of power, speed, endurance and experience. He had those attributes plus more experience in 07, but as a welterweight some of his physical attributes were less exceptional.
            Floyd would have still been getting kos and tkos had he stayed at 140..he was chasing that DLH money

            but 140 he wouldve been a beast but those guys wanted no parts of him....Hatton, Tszyu, Mitchell, I remember people saying he ducked Vivian Harris....kmsl....Harris would have got battered and stop and wasnt near Mayweathers or Hatton;s level at that

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            • Larry the boss
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              #26
              I think from 2002-2007..Hatton was his last prime fight imo

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                #27
                Originally posted by No Diggity
                The Judah fight is definitely in the middle of his prime. The balance he had of everything was phenomenal. Such a great chess-match of a fight earlier on.

                Same with Pacquiao, it may have been 140. Coincidentally they both practically skipped it because the money wasn't there.

                Intellectually, definitely the later years. Physically, the early to middle years.
                I loved how he adjusted and began to actually walk Judah down, he showed his ability to cut the ring off in that fight aswell

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Bravado
                  I think he fell out of his competitive prime after Ortiz. Once his leaping hook started to look poor i knew he was slowing down. Once his pull counter started to look like a telegraphed punch i knew it was done. So i'd say like after Ortiz.
                  Yea that leaping left hook left after the JMM fight i think and toward the end i could actually tell you when he was going to throw a lead right and the pull counter

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                  • FrankieClutch
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                    #29
                    It's hard to say when his prime started, but I'm pretty sure it ended after either Hatton or Marquez

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                    • GrandpaBernard
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by FrankieClutch
                      It's hard to say when his prime started, but I'm pretty sure it ended after either Hatton or Marquez
                      His athleticism was defly still there in the Marquez fight

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