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  • Shadoww702
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    #61
    Originally posted by kafkod
    The WBC gave GGG a contract gauranteeing him either a title fight with the winner of Canelo/Khan or that he will be promoted from interim to full champion if the winner does not agree to fight him next within 15 days.

    The sanctioned weight limit will be 160lbs. Canelo can try to negotiate a catchweight, but if Golovkin says no deal, Canelo must fight him at 160 or be stripped of the title.

    The WBC have no choice but to stick to the terms of the contract. This is not their own rules we are talking about, this is the law. They were ordered to pay Graciano Rocchigiani $30million damages for breaking a contract with him and almost went out of business.

    Pro boxing is a business as well as a sport. You can't just tear up a business contract and forget about it.
    Canelo/Cotto made $58,000,000 ALONE on PPV buys! That's NOT including ANYTHING else!!!

    Even at a 60/40 Split YOU just COST GGG $23,000,000! GOOD JOB YOU DUMB FK!!! Now here's your USUAL $4,000,000 a YEAR ($1 Mill/fight).

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    • koolkc107
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      #62
      The language I keep hearing is that the winner of the Canelo/Khan fight must agree to defend against the mandatory.

      I hear zero about what form that defense must take.

      So what happens if Canelo beats Khan and says "I will defend my title and it will be at a catchweight just like this defense was"

      What happens if Canelo starts talking about the numerous times the WBC and other sanctioning bodies allowed catchweights?

      Can anyone tell me what makes THIS mandatory so different from those fights?

      If not, if you can't say anything but "they have it in writing", then I'd say you are depending an awful lot on a piece of paper the WBC purposely left a lot of loopholes in.

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      • RussB23
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        #63
        Originally posted by koolkc107
        Well, the problem is the guy has been shooting off his mouth about fighting anyone in four weight classes for years.

        He is still yapping about 154 with Floyd.

        Forget what you might think happens in a perfect world.

        What do you think the WBC is going to do when choosing between a guy that couldnt break 100k PPV buys and one that almost did 1M buys their last fights?
        Sorry to break it to you but canelo is going to be forced to fight at 160 or vacate.

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          #64
          Originally posted by BombSquadRuss
          Sorry to break it to you but canelo is going to be forced to fight at 160 or vacate.
          I doubt it.

          If they don't blatantly dis the mandatory, they'll use BS.

          Like "stripping" Saul of the belt he has by elevating him to "Super Emeritus Champion"

          He'll still be the lineal in the middle of June, bank on it.

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            #65
            Originally posted by koolkc107
            The language I keep hearing is that the winner of the Canelo/Khan fight must agree to defend against the mandatory.

            I hear zero about what form that defense must take.

            So what happens if Canelo beats Khan and says "I will defend my title and it will be at a catchweight just like this defense was"

            What happens if Canelo starts talking about the numerous times the WBC and other sanctioning bodies allowed catchweights?

            Can anyone tell me what makes THIS mandatory so different from those fights?

            If not, if you can't say anything but "they have it in writing", then I'd say you are depending an awful lot on a piece of paper the WBC purposely left a lot of loopholes in.
            What makes it different is that's its the first time a CW was demanded for a mando. Terrible precedent, esp 155

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              #66
              Originally posted by BombSquadRuss
              Sorry to break it to you but canelo is going to be forced to fight at 160 or vacate.
              Pretty much!!! Do you think GGG sticking to 160 ONLY is in hopes it goes to a bid??? And then gets at least 55/45??? I do but GB is going to do the same thing Kathy Duva did against Adonis. There NEVER gonna let it even go to a bid. I hope Team GGG isn't banking on that? Man this Gamble is gonna cost him a LOT of FKN $$$$$$$$$$$$. And he's on the WRONG side of the gamble. Canelo don't give a sht about Belts or Lara wouldn't still have his...

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                #67
                Originally posted by koolkc107
                I doubt it.

                If they don't blatantly dis the mandatory, they'll use BS.

                Like "stripping" Saul of the belt he has by elevating him to "Super Emeritus Champion"

                He'll still be the lineal in the middle of June, bank on it.
                Sure, diamond champ, whatever. You'd hope all the independent rankings would strip him like the Ring stripped Aduckis

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by koolkc107;16628193[B
                  ]The language I keep hearing is that the winner of the Canelo/Khan fight must agree to defend against the mandatory.[/B]

                  I hear zero about what form that defense must take.

                  So what happens if Canelo beats Khan and says "I will defend my title and it will be at a catchweight just like this defense was"

                  What happens if Canelo starts talking about the numerous times the WBC and other sanctioning bodies allowed catchweights?

                  Can anyone tell me what makes THIS mandatory so different from those fights?

                  If not, if you can't say anything but "they have it in writing", then I'd say you are depending an awful lot on a piece of paper the WBC purposely left a lot of loopholes in.
                  If one side asks for a RIDICULOUS number say like 95-5 split?? Then what??? And the other refuses??? Does that still go to a bid?

                  Or better yet??? Someone like Floyd offers a shty Mandatory an AWESOME 70-30 split??? And the Mandatory REFUSES so it goes to a bid of 55/45 split not giving a sht about network, site, anything else but the money??? Does that go to a bid still??? And if Floyd REFUSES to pay say Berto (If he was a mandatory, whicih he was not) that much. Does he REALLY lose his belt???

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                  • koolkc107
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                    #69
                    So, the WBC is going to choose the sanctioning fees they can get off a guy who did 97,000 PPV and strip the guy that hit almost a million.

                    Yeah, that happens every day in boxing...

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by koolkc107
                      So, the WBC is going to choose the sanctioning fees they can get off a guy who did 97,000 PPV and strip the guy that hit almost a million.

                      Yeah, that happens every day in boxing...
                      The 97k guy claims Canelo only did 600k with A sider Cotto. Either way sanctioning fees are 300k max, they've been sued for 30m before for breach of contract and lost

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