Do Fights REALLY Need To SIMMER?

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  • Tony Trick-Pony
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    #71
    Now.

    Not in a year or two years.

    Just NOW.

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    • 10COUNT
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      #72
      Originally posted by anthonydavid11
      Now.

      Not in a year or two years.

      Just NOW.

      Don't say that too loud. People on here prefer to wait til 2019 to watch this fight. They might only make 50 mill as opposed to 150 later.

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      • Tony Trick-Pony
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        #73
        Originally posted by 10COUNT
        Don't say that too loud. People on here prefer to wait til 2019 to watch this fight. They might only make 50 mill as opposed to 150 later.
        LOL.

        I noticed that.

        Well, I say it louder!

        NOW!

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        • Tony Trick-Pony
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          #74
          All I really ask for each and every fight to be a challenge. I don't honestly see a point to all of the mismatches. When going into a fight, one guy is so far ahead in the odds, what is the point in having the fight?

          Instead of simmering/marinating, throw these guys in the ring now so we can see what they're made of and honestly so the fighters themselves can see what they're made of. They will never know otherwise.

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            #75
            I think a lot of the problems with the simmering are that fighters are already almost past-prime when they become champions meaning the work and pain and punches have already started to diminish them.

            A bunch of simmering makes them overcooked and over the hill.

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              #76
              Originally posted by jreckoning
              I think a lot of the problems with the simmering are that fighters are already almost past-prime when they become champions meaning the work and pain and punches have already started to diminish them.

              A bunch of simmering makes them overcooked and over the hill.
              I agree. If the fighter is so talented, can't they take on the big challenges NOW instead of in a year or two or three? I recall how long Chavez, Jr. was protected and it didn't make him any better than he would have been. Chavez, Sr. received no such protection early on and became legendary because of it.

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                #77
                If both fighters are established there is no sound reason that I can see to artificially postpone the fight. It results in frustration and apathy more than excitement, or in the case of superfights a level of hype that simply can't realistically be met.

                Simmering (perhaps seasoning would be a better word) is only really warranted when both fighters are prospects and need to establish themselves more in the public eye, as well as notch a few experience building wins under their belts. Joshua vs Parker is a good example. Too often though they just fight patsies until a money making opportunity presents itself, resulting more often than not in a dull sloppy fight, lacking in drama or top flight skills.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by -Kev-
                  I am positive both Mayweather and Pacquiao would agree they got more money from their fight in 2015 than they would have gotten in 2010.
                  There's tape from HBO, before 2007, where Floyd said ''he'd fug up that midget.'' The industry capitalized on Pac because after Floyd left, Pac was technically p4p #1, then they brought in Hatton and Oscar, whom were already were beaten at 147 and 154, respectfully, then somehow they drop in weight to fight Pac, with Oscar fighting at some ridiculous weight...

                  However, they wanted to ''simmer'' it there's no way Pac would beat Floyd. Different level of skill. Pac not wanting Drug Testing because he said it made him weak was ridiculous. If this was Pac's way to simmer it then he could've just flat out said ''I won't fight unless it's just UNDER THE RULES of the NSAC's ''basic'' drug testing protocol.''

                  Ahhhh, I love this sport!

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                  • Tony Trick-Pony
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                    #79
                    [QUOTE=Beyonce Bomber;16614325]If both fighters are established there is no sound reason that I can see to artificially postpone the fight. It results in frustration and apathy more than excitement, or in the case of superfights a level of hype that simply can't realistically be met.

                    Simmering (perhaps seasoning would be a better word) is only really warranted when both fighters are prospects and need to establish themselves more in the public eye, as well as notch a few experience building wins under their belts. Joshua vs Parker is a good example. Too often though they just fight patsies until a money making opportunity presents itself, resulting more often than not in a dull sloppy fight, lacking in drama or top flight skills.[/QUOTE]

                    That's my main problem with it. A fighter does not improve or grow in any way by fighting guys that are obviously way below his level. Sure, he may look good in destroying them or outclassing them, but it is a ridiculous waste of time for the fans and really, for the fighters other than providing money making opportunities for guys who can't fight. The whole Rocky scenario in the first movie generally results in a one-sided beat down instead of a great and true to form, Rocky was a movie. In real life, upsets do happen, but once again, does that HELP a prospect to lose to a guy so low level? That sucks the air out of a fight with a quickness.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by SoulFoodGinger
                      maybe because if no one pays to watch then they arent getting paid, idiot.
                      Fight purses are paid wether you watch or not, moron.

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