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Last edited by Raonic; 04-08-2016, 08:08 PM.
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Originally posted by rasdun View PostYes; I honestly forgot about him. At least when Ward sat out during his negotiations for a buy-out, he had already reached #2 lb 4 lb and was considered by some to be the best fighter in the world.
Garcia was a very good young fighter, but if memory serves me correct, I don't believe he was on any lb 4 lb lists, and was just starting to become known outside of hardcore boxing heads.
He had to have missed at least 4 fights he could've had under TR, which would've grossed well over 1 mil, and probably moch more for him. He'll be playing catch=up for at least a year or 2.
And that's not even considering that TR had seemingly been grooming him as a potential Pacquiao opponent. If he had kept winning and moved up a weight class, there was a legit chance he would've gotten a nice payday from that fight plus have the opportunity to become a cross-over star
He was right up there among the best fighters in the world, give or take, regardless of the opinion lists, which all have varying criteria.
It's great to have him back in the mix.
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Originally posted by Raonic View PostThen do the obvious and not accept the major money fight... It's what Chavez, Floyd and plenty of other fighters have done.
If the terms of the contract stated he had X amount of fights at X money, then as long as any promoter honoured that, I have no remorse for Garcia for signing a contract he ends up regretting.
And that's exactly what I meant by making a bad decision. Garcia would have benefitted from fighting those garbage fights for peanuts and still come out much better than what he did the past 2 years because he did not make any money the past 2 years. In those SAME 2 years, he could have fought those "garbage fights for peanuts" making at least a few hundred thousands and then leave when the contract ends (reject the extension he would have gotten offered)and sign with someone else. Instead, he chose the wrong path.
And if he didn't want to fight, then he should have tried to settle much earlier but instead chose to file a suit (that didn't even end up being proven in court), only to settle a few years later anyway.
There were much better ways to handle this situation, whether is was finish the contract or settle. Instead, he waited until near the end of his contract to settle...
How the fk would you know ?
You don't have a clue about the inner workings of their deal, or about what went wrong..... but trust you to side with a lying piece of **** over a fighter.
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Originally posted by Raonic View PostGood thing this isn't about me supporting Arum at all. It's about Garcia making a bad decision. He waited 2 years when fighters have resolved their issues with Arum much faster. He could have finished his contract or settle on a release/buyout. Instead, he decided to file a suit that lasted 2 years, only to buy himself out anyway. That's called an opportunity cost.
Nah, it's about you making a bad decision.
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Originally posted by aboutfkntime View PostHow the fk would you know ?
You don't have a clue about the inner workings of their deal, or about what went wrong..... but trust you to side with a lying piece of **** over a fighter.
But let's piece together the puzzle.
1. Garcia's lawsuit in 2014 was about how his contract was expired and that he should be a FA (along with how it was illegal) while Arum said it was a valid contract.
2. In 2016, he settled with TR to get released from THAT SAME CONTRACT (which actually expires in August 2016).
So practically, by settling with TR, that validates the contract was in fact valid. Well if Garcia lied about his contract being expired in 2014 (only to settle out of the same contract in 2016), why should I believe anything else he said in that lawsuit?
Arum's not a saint by any means but if Garcia has already practically admitted to lying, then why would I question Arum's statement that this specific contract was valid this whole time?
But even if you forget all of that, It has nothing to do with Arum really.
Garcia signed a contract. Whether the terms of the contract are ****ty or not, he's obligated to honour it. He chose not to honour it and wait until it expired over 2 years later, then that's fine, but that doesn't change the fact that he still wasted over 2 years of his prime (which was my original point) because of a bad decision he made since he's the one that signed the contract.
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