Lennox Lewis - Best Heavyweight Resume Ever

[MisterPullman]

Why do you ignore the fact that Lewis was far past his prime?

Sure maybe he was.. but I didn't see any decline from him.

I'm pointing out how ridiculous that statement of yours is "old and fat" no, he was perfectly capable of beating everyone the same way he did before. His engine might of been better when he was younger, but he was heavier, stronger, and smarter (more experienced) verse Vitali.

It's so hard for people to believe that some fighters like Hopkins can fight into their forties quite well.. And frankly, Lewis is one of them. If you're a Lewis fan, you do know he considered coming back several years ago?

[gmc_rfc_06]

Sure maybe he was.. but I didn't see any decline from him.

I'm pointing out how ridiculous that statement of yours is "old and fat" no, he was perfectly capable of beating everyone the same way he did before. His engine might of been better when he was younger, but he was heavier, stronger, and smarter (more experienced) verse Vitali.

It's so hard for people to believe that some fighters like Hopkins can fight into their forties quite well.. And frankly, Lewis is one of them. If you're a Lewis fan, you do know he considered coming back several years ago?

Lewis was clearly faded.

He was slower, he was heavier (fat, really), his reflexes and movement were slowed...the version Vitali saw was the worst version of Lennox Lewis, who had stated before the fight that he was looking forward to retirement.

The worst version of Lewis still stopped Vitali.

[juggernaut666]

Why do you ignore the fact that Lewis was far past his prime?

You have valid arguments but the flip side to that is Lewis was planning 3 more fights one was Wlad the other Tyson in a rematch and Vitali in a rematch. He also openly admitted to making the fight on short notice to be an advantage since Vitali never been in a big fight before . I saw little decline if any in Lewis ,i did see improvements in Vitali though which is why when Tyson declined the rematch ,Vitali became a mandatory challenger and Lewis took off when Vitali became the opponent not Tyson .

Lewis said the layoff helped him prior t Vitali ,he said he had so much more experience that he didnt lose a step and was as strong as ever ,Mannys plan was to have Lewis weihh more to counter Vitalis size so i'll leave it at that.

[MisterPullman]

Lewis was clearly faded.

He was slower, he was heavier (fat, really), his reflexes and movement were slowed...the version Vitali saw was the worst version of Lennox Lewis, who had stated before the fight that he was looking forward to retirement.

The worst version of Lewis still stopped Vitali.

Slowed eh? How could you compare that? Lewis fighting B level boxers earlier in his career stand no where near as good as Vitali. Tyson got destroyed buy an older version Lewis, Rahman did too.

I'm not saying Lewis is worse than Vitali, I'm saying BoxingXpert is being a bit too dramatic "Lewis was completely out of it".. or quite possibly Vitali was actually putting up a fight unlike his other latest victories

[Hands of Stone]

Let's be honest, Lennox Lewis has to be considered the best heavyweight boxer ever, mainly based on the fact that he has the best heavyweight resume ever.

In one of his earliest fights, he fought undefeated KO machine Gary Mason.
He would later defeat legends like Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield.
And who else would, out-of-prime and overweight, be able to beat a prime Vitali Klitschko?

He also defeated lots of other good opponents.

To make matters even more impressive, he avenged both of the only two defeats he suffered in his career.

He was tall and with an extremely long reach, having longer arms than even guys like Vitali who are taller than him. He had punching power, he had skills, he had the heart of a warrior. Lennox Lewis the best heavyweight ever and I would favour him against any heavyweight in history.

Your analysis/responses to comments posted so far just seem rather subpar and uninformed. Even your response/counter argument about who beats who in a potential match lacks any substance/concrete rationale as to why. That tells me you have little to no knowledge on the topic you are writing about other than from a fanboy perspective. Now digest this. Do you realize Lennox Lewis biggest career win and his moment in boxing was against an over the hill Mike Tyson and a Evander Holyfield who had lost 4 out of his 6 fights coming into that matchup. Contrast that with Ali who was fighting absolutely primed opponent, win or lose when he was already past his prime. His biggest career win against Foreman is one example, his loss to Holmes was another. Ali was past it. I hate to fathom what a primed Foreman would have done to a Chinny Lewis or what a 1966-67 Cassius Clay would have done with Lewis or Tyson for that matter. No knock on Lewis, he has named opponents on his resume but you have to factor in when those fights took place. The best resume by far in the history of boxing belongs to none other than Cassius Clay and it's not even close.

[Grange_27]

Ok, You should sit down and closely watch these fights: Lewis-Bruno, Lewis.- Mercer, Lewis- Tucker, Lewis-McCall, Lewis-Briggs, Lewis-Mavrovic, Lewis- Rahman, Lewis-Klitschko and i think you perception of reality would change a bit. Hes win over past their primes Holyfield and Tyson is bigger on the record then in reality.And dont forget, he was behind on every scorecard against Klitschko and a cut gave him a lucky escape.

I would probloby say Larry Holmes.

He was 2 rounds behind after 6 rounds and Vitalis eye was opened up from a punch...That's a TKO all day long. Vitali couldn't continue it was a shocking cut.

Lewis took on all comers basically and beat every man he ever faced (2nd time round with McCall Holyfield and Rahman). Don't get much better resumes than that in the HW division...

[juggernaut666]

Wow could Joshua, with 15 career wins and ZERO over world class competition, be put over Lewis at anything?

Im not comparing Lewis im comparing what Wlad would be considered if he were to pull that off .Joshua has more talent than anyone Lewis ever fought .Anyone can dispute that but i dont care ...lol


Theres no one that Lewis beat that Joshua cant right now excluding Vitali .

[Grange_27]

Your analysis/responses to comments posted so far just seem rather subpar and uninformed. Even your response/counter argument about who beats who in a potential match lacks any substance/concrete rationale as to why. That tells me you have little to no knowledge on the topic you are writing about other than from a fanboy perspective. Now digest this. Do you realize Lennox Lewis biggest career win and his moment in boxing was against an over the hill Mike Tyson and a Evander Holyfield who had lost 4 out of his 6 fights coming into that matchup. Contrast that with Ali who was fighting absolutely primed opponent, win or lose when he was already past his prime. His biggest career win against Foreman is one example, his loss to Holmes was another. Ali was past it. I hate to fathom what a primed Foreman would have done to a Chinny Lewis or what a 1966-67 Cassius Clay would have done with Lewis or Tyson for that matter. No knock on Lewis, he has named opponents on his resume but you have to factor in when those fights took place. The best resume by far in the history of boxing belongs to none other than Cassius Clay and it's not even close.

Looks like a certain Mr George Foreman thinks you are wrong....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/specials/lewis_v_tyson_fight/2036717.stm

[juggernaut666]

Your analysis/responses to comments posted so far just seem rather subpar and uninformed. Even your response/counter argument about who beats who in a potential match lacks any substance/concrete rationale as to why. That tells me you have little to no knowledge on the topic you are writing about other than from a fanboy perspective. Now digest this. Do you realize Lennox Lewis biggest career win and his moment in boxing was against an over the hill Mike Tyson and a Evander Holyfield who had lost 4 out of his 6 fights coming into that matchup. Contrast that with Ali who was fighting absolutely primed opponent, win or lose when he was already past his prime. His biggest career win against Foreman is one example, his loss to Holmes was another. Ali was past it. I hate to fathom what a primed Foreman would have done to a Chinny Lewis or what a 1966-67 Cassius Clay would have done with Lewis or Tyson for that matter. No knock on Lewis, he has named opponents on his resume but you have to factor in when those fights took place. The best resume by far in the history of boxing belongs to none other than Cassius Clay and it's not even close.

I would disagree here..Ali only fought a few prime opponents worth mentioning...the sole one was...well foreman but that wasn't the best Foreman.He fought really only Patterson who was a small Hw.The rest like Norton ,Frazier had defeated Ali.you have to include wins not losses overall in comparing resumes.He beat Frazier twice,i had ali losing the second one,but regardless he fought out of prime Frazier,he never actually beat a prime Frazier.


The guys lewis beat would be much more difficult than Alis overall weak resume,it is weak because you have to include fighters at their best,i would put money on Tyson/Holyfield/and even Morrison to be much more dangerous than the smaller guys Ali went up against and had difficulties with.This doesn't take away from alis standing,however in the sheme of boxing which is why he is called the greatest for the other attributes he gave to boxing.

[gmc_rfc_06]

Slowed eh? How could you compare that? Lewis fighting B level boxers earlier in his career stand no where near as good as Vitali. Tyson got destroyed buy an older version Lewis, Rahman did too.

I'm not saying Lewis is worse than Vitali, I'm saying BoxingXpert is being a bit too dramatic "Lewis was completely out of it".. or quite possibly Vitali was actually putting up a fight unlike his other latest victories

It wasn't about the opposition though, it was about Lewis.

He came it at a career high weight, was fat, was talking of retirement and was slower in every aspect. Vitali being good just made it worse, but it was clear to see that Lewis had one foot out the door.