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  • #71
    Originally posted by SugarKaineHook View Post
    The point he's trying to make is you're not criticizing that Sugar Ray Leonard bout which in retrospect is worse, but people don't like bring it up because it's in the past and you're investment in Lil'G can't have no wrong.
    Lol...no. What he brought up isn't the same, even though it was an attempt to give an example of someone doing what canelo is doing. Boxing past is full of fighters doing all kinds of ***t up ****, but this i haven't seen before. It has nothing to do with ggg for me. If anything he's taking a stance in favor of canelo cuz he doesn't like ggg.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by considerthis View Post
      Lol...no. What he brought up isn't the same, even though it was an attempt to give an example of someone doing what canelo is doing. Boxing past is full of fighters doing all kinds of ***t up ****, but this i haven't seen before. It has nothing to do with ggg for me. If anything he's taking a stance in favor of canelo cuz he doesn't like ggg.
      Has Canelo made any defenses yet? The voluntary is beneficial to GBP not Abel or Loeffler's profitable goals. Let's see what happens for the mandatory situation when the time comes. The whole Caneloweight about 155 is beyond played out, Cotto was the A side. Without Cotto, Canelo hype wouldn't even be about 155. In fact this catch benefits Khan more than it does Canelo. Canelo at 154-160 would still beat Khan. GBP, did they finish their lawsuit with Nelo's first promoter's? this whole Khan debacle's earnings will help provide settlement issues, which is the main reason why GBP chose Khan. GBP needs to stay a float any way possible, especially if they were to get hit hard with settlement losses. If Canelo were to vacate after Khan that's one thing, if the Canelo still has a belt and Abel still mentions 2017 or 2018 then best believe the fans are being played.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by SugarKaineHook View Post
        Has Canelo made any defenses yet? The voluntary is beneficial to GBP not Abel or Loeffler's profitable goals. Let's see what happens for the mandatory situation when the time comes. The whole Caneloweight about 155 is beyond played out, Cotto was the A side. Without Cotto, Canelo hype wouldn't even be about 155. In fact this catch benefits Khan more than it does Canelo. Canelo at 154-160 would still beat Khan. GBP, did they finish their lawsuit with Nelo's first promoter's? this whole Khan debacle's earnings will help provide settlement issues, which is the main reason why GBP chose Khan. GBP needs to stay a float any way possible, especially if they were to get hit hard with settlement losses. If Canelo were to vacate after Khan that's one thing, if the Canelo still has a belt and Abel still mentions 2017 or 2018 then best believe the fans are being played.
        Whether he fights ggg or not...he holds belts in 2 weight classes, yet won't fight at either limit. If he can't make 154, then move to 160...having that extra pound against fighters he's already bigger than, or suggesting fighters should have to lose 5lbs to fight him are equally ridiculous. If he vactated the mw belt, actually fought at 154 his next fight...then fought ggg at 157 would be fine. It's the trying to make his own weight class that bothers me.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by considerthis View Post
          Whether he fights ggg or not...he holds belts in 2 weight classes, yet won't fight at either limit. If he can't make 154, then move to 160...having that extra pound against fighters he's already bigger than, or suggesting fighters should have to lose 5lbs to fight him are equally ridiculous. If he vactated the mw belt, actually fought at 154 his next fight...then fought ggg at 157 would be fine. It's the trying to make his own weight class that bothers me.
          that's the unfortunate culture of catchweights, and let's say title catchweights, and it hasn't started here. the rule of catchweights is middle ground between fighters, so however unlucky outcome it is for many purist boxing fans, Khan wouldn't disagree with this catchweight for Nelo's 1st voluntary defense. I know it sucks, but hey, Pac fans say the Margo and Cotto title fights were legit. That's just the way it is. I think we need to wait and see after the Khan vs Canelo bout to make any conclusive criticisms. If Lil'G asked Ward for 164, then he's acnkowledging a catchweight. If Nelo vacates after this then I would call ducking at 160. However, if they do fight and it's above 155, let's say 157, then it's ok? What if Nelo surprises everyone and takes 160?

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          • #75
            Originally posted by SugarKaineHook View Post
            that's the unfortunate culture of catchweights, and let's say title catchweights, and it hasn't started here. the rule of catchweights is middle ground between fighters, so however unlucky outcome it is for many purist boxing fans, Khan wouldn't disagree with this catchweight for Nelo's 1st voluntary defense. I know it sucks, but hey, Pac fans say the Margo and Cotto title fights were legit. That's just the way it is. I think we need to wait and see after the Khan vs Canelo bout to make any conclusive criticisms. If Lil'G asked Ward for 164, then he's acnkowledging a catchweight. If Nelo vacates after this then I would call ducking at 160. However, if they do fight and it's above 155, let's say 157, then it's ok? What if Nelo surprises everyone and takes 160?
            I have no issue with a catchweight fight between champions in 2 different divisions who are meeting in the middle to make a big fight happen. If canelo fought any mw at 160, it shouldn't surprise anyone...he'll just be doing what he's supposed to if he chooses to stay at mw. What canelo is doing is basically acknowledging he can't quite make 154 anymore, so instead of moving up to a more natural weight, he's trying to use his star power as leverage to make opponents fight at the weight he's most comfortable at.

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