Mayweather was handed a chance against Hernandez for the 130 lineal title

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  • therealpugilist
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    #111
    Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
    You said elite now its all time, do you need help moving those goalposts? Pacquiao is not a top 10 of this era? Pacquiao was considered P4P #2 only behind Mayweather when Mayweather fought him, is that not elite? Move along clown.
    they have to move the gold posts.....its funny....did Hopkins ever beat an elite all timer?

    Did Mike Tyson beat an all time great in their prime?

    these idiots dont realize you cant pick your era and sometimes there is only a handful of great in an era....period.

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      #112
      Originally posted by Dip_Slide
      How can you call beating the lineal champion "being handed a title"? You can say he was given a chance to fight for the title but he wasn't handed the title since he beat the champion.
      You again? or are you another person? however... ANOTHER Mayweather's fan that can't read, like his idol.

      READ THE FCKING TITLE AGAIN.

      Mayweather was handed a chance against Hernandez for the 130 lineal title
      I said he was handed a chance to fight for the lineal title, not that he was handled the title. Why don't you fcking read properly asshle.

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        #113
        Originally posted by _Maxi
        You again? or are you another person? however... ANOTHER Mayweather's fan that can't read, like his idol.

        READ THE FCKING TITLE AGAIN.



        I said he was handed a chance to fight for the lineal title, not that he was handled the title. Why don't you fcking read properly asshle.
        Then the whole comparison is not valid by any means, people are complaining about GGG winning vacant titles or winning titles outside of the ring, how can you compare this to someone who won a title by beating the champion in the ring?

        This guy GGG is getting close to setting some kind of record for title defenses, yet he only beat 1 current belt holder in 34 fights and 1 former champion! Of course people have the right to criticize his level of opposition and he still has the chance to change this perception but he's sticking to unifying some meaningless vacated belts at 160, something that won't do him any good legacy-wise and financial-wise.

        All the greats (including Mayweather) accepted the B side role at some point of their careers to get the fights they need to get to the next level, whether it's fighting at a catchweight or moving up in weight or accepting less money, all the greats did it when they were in GGG's shoes and people expect the same from him.

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          #114
          Originally posted by Dip_Slide
          Then the whole comparison is not valid by any means, people are complaining about GGG winning vacant titles or winning titles outside of the ring, how can you compare this to someone who won a title by beating the champion in the ring?

          This guy GGG is getting close to setting some kind of record for title defenses, yet he only beat 1 current belt holder in 34 fights and 1 former champion! Of course people have the right to criticize his level of opposition and he still has the chance to change this perception but he's sticking to unifying some meaningless vacated belts at 160, something that won't do him any good legacy-wise and financial-wise.

          All the greats (including Mayweather) accepted the B side role at some point of their careers to get the fights they need to get to the next level, whether it's fighting at a catchweight or moving up in weight or accepting less money, all the greats did it when they were in GGG's shoes and people expect the same from him.
          he isnt close to any record......Hopkins won his ibf title in the RING and defended 20 times...the alphabet title record....and monzon beat hall of famer Benvenuti who was the lineal titleholder and defended it 14 times...the one record that matter...sorry 'nard and GGG he got elevated, never won the title in the ring...his title means little to nothing, then look at who he defends them against. people his own fans have to google to know who they are lol

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            #115
            Originally posted by Dip_Slide
            Then the whole comparison is not valid by any means, people are complaining about GGG winning vacant titles or winning titles outside of the ring, how can you compare this to someone who won a title by beating the champion in the ring?

            This guy GGG is getting close to setting some kind of record for title defenses, yet he only beat 1 current belt holder in 34 fights and 1 former champion! Of course people have the right to criticize his level of opposition and he still has the chance to change this perception but he's sticking to unifying some meaningless vacated belts at 160, something that won't do him any good legacy-wise and financial-wise.

            All the greats (including Mayweather) accepted the B side role at some point of their careers to get the fights they need to get to the next level, whether it's fighting at a catchweight or moving up in weight or accepting less money, all the greats did it when they were in GGG's shoes and people expect the same from him.
            GGG is willing to accept B-side terms for Canelo, but not on weight when the other guy is heavier than him. Floyd won less money than Oscar but he wasn't forced to some crazy CW or something. Is that too difficult to understand?

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              #116
              Originally posted by _Maxi
              GGG is willing to accept B-side terms for Canelo, but not on weight when the other guy is heavier than him. Floyd won less money than Oscar but he wasn't forced to some crazy CW or something. Is that too difficult to understand?
              if there is a but..he is not accepting terms....Mayweather was the b side and ODLH chose the weight class, ring size, glove brand and glove size....thats accepting b-side terms


              GGG is happy fighting mandatory challengers and being handed belts.

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                #117
                Originally posted by _Maxi
                I'm not comparing fighters, I'm comparing situations. What is stepping out? fighting the best guy in your division? well GGG is trying to do that since 2008... so bad that they run away from him
                I'm a triple G fan and recognize that other fighters are ducking him. The best of the division are not going to fight him unless they are obligated and still vacate to avoid him.

                Unless he is the cash cow of the division no top fighter will get close to him. He has the division running scared

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by _Maxi
                  GGG is willing to accept B-side terms for Canelo, but not on weight when the other guy is heavier than him. Floyd won less money than Oscar but he wasn't forced to some crazy CW or something. Is that too difficult to understand?
                  floyd was only a few fights in fighting over 135.....he fought like 6 times at 140 and 147 and ODLH demanded it be at 154

                  if Canelo is "bigger" why has he not weighed in at 160 or over 155?

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                    #119
                    Originally posted by therealpugilist
                    if there is a but..he is not accepting terms....Mayweather was the b side and ODLH chose the weight class, ring size, glove brand and glove size....thats accepting b-side terms


                    GGG is happy fighting mandatory challengers and being handed belts.
                    Yes but he didn't have any problem in making weight. In fact he was favoured by it. He was more powerful at 154. He was young, in his prime, against an Oscar that was inactive, had had two fights in three years, and already had four or five losses. Is that stepping out for you? no way.

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by therealpugilist
                      floyd was only a few fights in fighting over 135.....he fought like 6 times at 140 and 147 and ODLH demanded it be at 154

                      if Canelo is "bigger" why has he not weighed in at 160 or over 155?
                      Because Canelo somehow is cutting 20 pounds at the weigh in. Are you judging the fighters ability to cut weight? or what they do in the ring? cuz canelo has a few pounds over GGG fight night. Do you know what Canelo does to cut weight? you think he's not doing anything illegal?

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