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  • #41
    Originally posted by Carnivore View Post
    Do you come from a very poor uneducated background where you heard your parents explain everything as "racist corporation, racist politician, racist cop", etc? Seems very common on this forum. Lots of unemployed people who have created intimidating mythologies about the world beyond their slum.

    Bob Arum is a very far-left leaning ***ish ******* who is constantly trying to be "down with the brown" by calling mma fighters skinheads, taking shots are **********s, etc.

    Despite his embarrassing pandering, he is still widely seen as racist by you from the slums because he has pale skin.

    Small vocabulary+anger=everything is racist.

    Lomachenko vs Walters are small unpopular fighters. Only internet boxing types follow them. They aren't exceptions to the rule like say Pacquaio. They are just routine small fighters coming up the ranks.

    Lomachenko is whiter than Golovkin but making much less money. Is it specifically half-Koreans HBO loves?

    Golovkin is semi-mainstream popular and Monroe won the Boxcino tournament which too us might be bumsville but got him enough buzz to land the fight.

    HBO and Top Rank are businesses. They want to make a profit. They pay you based on what will turn them a profit.
    HBO boxing doesn't make profits based off single fights unless they are pay per view. HBO makes money by getting people to pay 30 bucks a month for the HBO/Cinemax package. HBO has made a decision to not show black boxers and go whites only to attract people like you, who feel uncomfortable around **********.

    You think because you had everything handed to you that you got it all figured out, the truth is Golovkin vs cab drivers hurts boxing long term.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by glenn mcrory View Post
      Beat me to it.
      Mad about Lucas fight?

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      • #43
        Originally posted by GMAN SUPREME View Post
        you got a source for that? last I checked it was walters who wanted the whole 1 mil to himself.
        Where are you checking? This is the full tweet from Rafael
        I’m told that HBO offered Top Rank $1M for VLom-Walters but that Walters offered $350k

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        • #44
          Originally posted by JoeMan View Post
          Half a million for each is more than enough. 50/50. What am I missing? Why do you want these people who can barely draw flies get $1 million each?

          I don't get the logic. Boxing is dying because of overpaying these undeserving people.
          I want them to be given an offer that is realistic. 500K for Loma vs Walters is pathetic.

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          • #45
            Regardless who ducked who Arum is paying the price for burning bridges all these years. The way it used to be he could threaten HBO by taking Pacquiao to another network to get more out of HBO.

            Now he's burned bridges with all the competing networks so HBO doesn't have to overpay anymore.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by aldo5408 View Post
              Why is Loma entitled to the lion's share hes not a star either. It should be 50/50
              Originally posted by aldo5408 View Post
              Yea your conveniently missing that out of the million arum is giving Walters 350k and Loma the rest 650k
              Originally posted by -PBP- View Post
              I did not know that. That's bull****. I read Walters wanted $1m and the offer was $500k each. Either way it should be 50/50 and I can't blame Walters for turning down 65/35.
              That was the original offer then the offer was bumped to 435K for Walters, so Lomachenko was willing to take less money for the fight. Then Loma said he would take a 50-50 (500K for each). Walters is the one asking for a million. Remember that.

              But all the advantages are being given to Walters, so why can't Loma at least take a little bit more money?
              Walters asked for the June date, because he wasn't going to be ready for April, Lomachenko accepted. The fight will more than likely take place at 130 for Walters NOT for Loma.
              What else does Walters want? What more can he be given?

              By the way there are only a few people saying the fight is OFF, so we should wait a little more to get some solid news. For now it's just rumors.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by CaneloMaidana View Post
                HBO boxing doesn't make profits based off single fights unless they are pay per view. HBO makes money by getting people to pay 30 bucks a month for the HBO/Cinemax package. HBO has made a decision to not show black boxers and go whites only to attract people like you, who feel uncomfortable around **********.

                You think because you had everything handed to you that you got it all figured out, the truth is Golovkin vs cab drivers hurts boxing long term.
                You're an idiot. Crawford just made 1.2m vs a no hoper. HBO loves him. Bradley consistently outearns anyone on PBC. Neither of these guys is half the draw that Ggg is.

                The reason they like him, dummy, is he's so easy to work with: doesn't ask for more than he's worth, will fight anyone they want wherever, exciting style brings fan interest, no pouting or lawsuits. And he's also fcuking good, he can bring out the b1tch in Mexican warrior Canelo

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by CaneloMaidana View Post
                  You're wrong actually boxing promoters would never box themselves in like this. He's attacked Showtime when in the past promoters would use the threat of Showtime or independent ppv to punk out HBO.
                  So all he did was do the opposite side of the coin. Try to get on HBO's good side by attacking ST.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by CaneloMaidana View Post
                    HBO boxing doesn't make profits based off single fights unless they are pay per view. HBO makes money by getting people to pay 30 bucks a month for the HBO/Cinemax package. HBO has made a decision to not show black boxers and go whites only to attract people like you, who feel uncomfortable around **********.

                    You think because you had everything handed to you that you got it all figured out, the truth is Golovkin vs cab drivers hurts boxing long term.
                    HBO could fill that time slot with something else and get the same ratings without paying 2 million for it. If the fighters ask more than their ratings are worth they get dumped.

                    Get it yet? They are a business. They want to make money. If showing Game of Thrones reruns gets the same ratings they'd rather not pay a featherweight boxer 2 million dollars "because he said so". They could take that 2 million home instead of handing it out to prove they aren't "racist".

                    I am a "minority" but when they act like you they need their face slapped around. No pity for lazy squatters who think everything they don't like is "racist". Whiny shameless **** with no dignity.
                    Last edited by ////; 03-20-2016, 05:47 PM.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by PKing View Post
                      And that is why you and people who think like you just don't get it.

                      Boxing promoters have garbage business models.
                      Think about that for a second.

                      If all business promoters have garbage business models (like you said), regardless of what you think about the model, how the hell is he that much worse off than any other promoter?

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