Is Tyson Fury a better fighter than Wladimir Klitschko?

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Fury beats any version of Wlad with ease. He's by the far the more skilled fighter. Wlad has a punchers chance as always, but skills pay the bills.

[Dmitry]

Over all Wladimir is better but there are styles that he did not do well against. The same is true for Fury but he has not faced a lot of different styles at the top for us to see.

[sunny31]

I think Wladimir's style is harder to beat. He will basically never lose to a smaller fighter unless he was dynamic like Mike Tyson, or skilled and strong like Evander. Those are the only types of smaller guys that could have beaten him, elite guys. But when you put him in with a fighter his own size then you see what time it is. I see that he can't deal with it, and Fury is only a good fighter, he is not a great one to me. He has good ability, ok puncher, pretty good speed. People who are blaming the loss on Wladimir being shot are deluded and haven't followed his career very closely or they have and are fan boys. I can assure everyone that he is not shot, over the hill maybe, but definitely not shot, I think he loses to Fury last year, the year before, and 5 years before that. He can't deal with a guy that can touch him and make him miss. He is an upright fighter who has no defence for incoming fire apart from to move his feet or clinch, thing is he can't wear a fighter like Fury down with his clinching and he couldn't reach him without putting himself in Fury's punching range which made him extremely uncomfortable because he doesn't trust his chin in the pocket. It's a shame because now people can blame it on age and that excuse is there but really the guy never fought anyone his own size with good ability until Fury.

Having said that I think Wladimir is the better fighter between the two basically because he would do better and beat more styles. Fury won't clinch and nullify like Wlad, and will exchange and fight so I think he will lose some fights at championship level. Wladimir is better technically and has better fundamentals.

[Froch_uppercut]

Vote and discuss.

If ever there was a fight outcome needed to illustrate the adage: "styles make fights" - then the Fury Wlad fight was it.

Wlad won many fights by using range and playing it safe from distance. Jabbing his way to big points leads and only taking risks when, well, they were no longer risks really.

He used a size advantage and leaned on guys, sapping their energy and tying them up when they got too close.

I said it before the fight - Fury's size negated all of those tactics. This is what made WK look so lethargic, he was puzzled - his range was not an advantage and neither was his size. Fury lulled him into a points deficit he could not get out of, without really doing too much himself, just by being slightly busier.

Fury will get beaten by any quicker (I'm not buying this 'fast Fury' myth), heavy hitting guy out there. Joshua matches him for size, is a cleaner boxer, and will destroy Fury. Wilder, although a bit raw, won't be lulled into a dull fight and would also stop Fury, and same for Haye and Parker- too much action for Fury.

Wlad was made for TF, allowing a no action contest to go to his opponent, precisely what he (Klit) has done for years, winning slow, cagey contests. But that's where Fury's fame begins and ends, though he'd likely win a rematch against Klitcshko.

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PRime vs prime it's not even close, Klitschko is better than Fury in every possible way. Every way, period.

Right now though? They're on a pretty even playing field. Wlad looks horrible.

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If ever there was a fight outcome needed to illustrate the adage: "styles make fights" - then the Fury Wlad fight was it.

Wlad won many fights by using range and playing it safe from distance. Jabbing his way to big points leads and only taking risks when, well, they were no longer risks really.

He used a size advantage and leaned on guys, sapping their energy and tying them up when they got too close.

I said it before the fight - Fury's size negated all of those tactics. This is what made WK look so lethargic, he was puzzled - his range was not an advantage and neither was his size. Fury lulled him into a points deficit he could not get out of, without really doing too much himself, just by being slightly busier.

Fury will get beaten by any quicker (I'm not buying this 'fast Fury' myth), heavy hitting guy out there. Joshua matches him for size, is a cleaner boxer, and will destroy Fury. Wilder, although a bit raw, won't be lulled into a dull fight and would also stop Fury, and same for Haye and Parker- too much action for Fury.

Wlad was made for TF, allowing a no action contest to go to his opponent, precisely what he (Klit) has done for years, winning slow, cagey contests. But that's where Fury's fame begins and ends, though he'd likely win a rematch against Klitcshko.

Mariusz Wach is the same size as Fury. Maybe taller based on weigh in photos. Size wasn't the issue. Fury just tried to force an old reluctant counterpuncher to chase him and won on points.

I don't know how this myth that Wlad's never fought guys bigger than him until Fury came along stays alive...

[Pain~Lucy]

Right now it's obviously Fury, Wlad slipped big, he can pull an upset though in rematch

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The king of boxing will continue to prove his haters wrong.

Lineal champion baby! The rest are just fighting for his scraps. All the other HW's talked the talk about Klitschko, but it was Fury who went to the lions den and did the impossible.

I laugh at idiots who claim that a novice like Anthony Joshua would beat him. It's a complete mismatch, ask Eddie Hearn. He knows Joshua isn't ready and has already come out and said as much.

[LacedUp]

No, not necessarily. 'Is' implies generally speaking. Just because Fury happened to win doesn't make him a better fighter. Because that's not what he proved. Vladimir proved himself over two decades since winning Olympic gold in 1996, when Fury was still a child. In other words, Vlad is a proven better fighter than Fury.

Now, if Fury beats Vlad again and goes on to clean out the HW division in the coming years, it makes sense to pick up this discussion again, maybe. Until then, well... not so much.

It definitely does not. 'is' implies current. As in: "who is the best fighter (right now)? You should have worded it differently if you wanted everyone to jump on the klitschko bandwagon.

Wlad has proven credentials. Yes. His career is more successful than Fury's right now.

But who is the better fighter? Fury obviously since he just took Wlad to school.

Of course it does. Obviously heart, chin, punch resistance, willingness to fight the best and historical context all come into it but when we are talking about who is simply better it's Wlad.

Do you honestly believe, prime for prime, Fury is a better fighter than Wlad?

That wasn't the question, hence totally irrelevant to this conversation.

[LacedUp]

Mariusz Wach is the same size as Fury. Maybe taller based on weigh in photos. Size wasn't the issue. Fury just tried to force an old reluctant counterpuncher to chase him and won on points.

I don't know how this myth that Wlad's never fought guys bigger than him until Fury came along stays alive...

Of course size mattered a great deal. Mariusz Wach is a complete stiff idiot. It's ****** to even compare him to Fury.