Comments Thread For: Luis Ortiz: Deontay Wilder is a Champion Until I Fight Him

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Fury has always been very talented, he was ranked in the top 2 in the world as a junior.

The problem early in his pro career was that it was a lottery if he was going to turn up in decent shape or motivated at all. Still got the job done in every fight though.

I think Fury would make very easy work of Wilder. Wilder doesn't even have good enough fundamentals to compete with Fury, unless he lands some big wild swing.

Fury would also give Ortiz a long night in my opinion. He would offset everything Ortiz does with his style and size. Ortiz is very good though, i just think Fury would be a stylistic nightmare for him.

Fury is simply the best HW in the world, and imo could be a very special fighter if he stays motivated. People call me a fanboy, but it's the truth. I've been preaching this for years. I agree with everything you say btw.

[MC Hammer]

Ortiz's two mismatches doesn't lead me to believe that he is anything that Deontay couldn't handle

[Teddy05]

Only a year before, Klitschko KO'd Pulev and guys here were claiming he was p4p #1 and one of the GOAT's. Fury beats him and he suddenly becomes shot to bits, and was never any good in the first place.

Exactly. How fast people forget. And those same people still consider Pulev one of the best in the world. Cant have it both ways

[SkillspayBills]

I don't see any of the heavies giving Ortiz a shot. His only chance was to be someone's mandatory and that isn't happening.

[boxingfan4life]

I swear all this "regular" and "super" champion crap baffles me. I miss the good old days when it was simpler and just one type of champion. Its irritating.

[jaded]

Ortiz counters one of those wild windmill punches and it all over for Wilder. Wilder just makes too many mistakes to fight a guy like Ortiz...eventually he goes to sleep.

[mexicanstyle]

Cant get out of my mind that dehaupas match dont recall his name but he took some good shots from that guy even shut his eye up the drummerboy guy hurt him spzilca was winning his share of rounds until that monstrous k.o.shot deontay is there 2 be hit with his wide shots and his hands down dfence what will happen when ortiz clubs him with one of those counter temple shots he so effectively land people doubted deontays chin and hes managed to prove people wrong until now but ortiz is at a whole different level boxing and punching wise arguably the hardest puncher in the division maybe even better than deontay himself.plus ortiz comes from a traditionally one of the best boxing schools in the planet.the best way for deontay to win is fighting on the outside moving constantly and tying ortiz up when he does manage to get inside but coming to analize deontay wilders pride and machismo he will eventually get drawn into a slugfest and thats ortiz bread and butter the smarter man and the one who better sticks to their gameplan is going to come out on top.

[Sledgeweather17]

That's actually a pretty advanced means of control that you'll see Andre Ward and certain other high-level boxers use a lot on southpaws. Use the lead to control the opponent, turn him, parry his lead, obscure his vision, etc. I'm not going to say that Wilder is anywhere on the level of a Ward, only that it's a method I'm very familiar with.

But Szpilka had switched to orthodox stance in that moment, so it can't be move 'used a lot on southpaws' as you say.

And Wilder didn't 'parry' his head, he literally grapped the top of Szpilka's head, held it in place, and launched the chopping right (all in one move).

Not trying to argue or deny the existence of the move you're talking about, just doubting that what Wilder did is what you're talking given the above reasons.

Also, just to be clear, I'm not criticising Wilder for what he did, Floyd uses head control all the time to prevent return fire and other fighters use head control too, I'm just saying it kinda looked funny on the replay, like when you see in movies or real life when an adult holds the top of a kid's head and the kid swings his arms Wildly trying to hit the adult. I'm also saying it was the first time I seen head control used quite like that.

[Sugarhitman]

Ortiz is too slow of foot to compete with Wilder, and let's not kid ourselves, Wilder is the harder puncher between the two. Ortiz tkos opponents, Wilder puts opponents on their back and to sleep. Ortiz knows this and will likely do what Cuban boxers do in face of punchers...... box.

[Sugarhitman]

Tyson Fury can box....He's mentally tough, decent speed and pop...plus he's been boxing since a kid....He's the only one I see that could beat Wilder....but it will not be easy.