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  • #11
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
    3-1 isn't very big.

    I'm suprised the odds are that short actually.

    I'd expect Khan to be 6-1 at least.
    3-1 is a solid underdog. 6-1 is damn right disgraceful for a fight.

    With two fighters on world level, probably wouldn't happen.

    Also, I'm curious as to who made it 3-1? Las Vegas or UK?

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    • #12
      How do the bookies no nothing about boxing lol come on lad 3-1 isn't big either

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      • #13
        Salty brook fan.....everyone was buzzing about it when news was dropped.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
          no - they refer to who is likely and unlikely to win.

          bookies know absolute *** all about boxing and that's the bottom line.

          Besides even if he is a 3-1 underdog, that's pretty big.
          Have you got brain damage? Bookies know there stuff. As someone has already said, it is their whole purpose to know. Bookmaking firms use odds compliers, these are people who are specifically hired to work out the odds and ensure the bookies make a profit on a specific contest or event. They normally have intimate knowledge of the sport they are working in, and can also have lots of contacts (not always) who get inside information on specific athletes/teams that you and I will not be privy to. These guys will also have a sound understanding of statistics and mathematics in general.

          Are they going to get it right every time? Absolutely not! That is impossible. But good sports bettors know the basic principle to winning over a long term is being able to beat the "house", this is only done by knowing your stuff and having as much expertise and knowledge as they do.

          You are pretty ignorant if you think that bookies know *** all about boxing. That has got to be the quote of the day lol.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
            3-1 is a solid underdog. 6-1 is damn right disgraceful for a fight.

            With two fighters on world level, probably wouldn't happen.

            Also, I'm curious as to who made it 3-1? Las Vegas or UK?
            3-1 is normal. Happens all the time.

            6-1 isn't that out of the ordinary either and that goes for World Title fights aswell.

            What was Dillian Whyte like 8-1 or something like that?

            He's 3/1 in the UK. I don't know about Vegas. He's as low as 2-1 underdog in some bookies.

            He's even shorter in some bookies. Canelo is as low as a 2-1 favourite at some bookies aswell.

            He's definitely not a big underdog according to the bookies.
            Last edited by IronDanHamza; 02-17-2016, 05:58 AM.

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            • #16
              It is not a super fight in the traditional sense.

              It is a big PPV event though.

              Khan is not really bringing anything to the table apart from hype.

              Hype sells PPVs.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                3-1 is normal. Happens all the time.

                6-1 isn't that out of the ordinary either and that goes for World Title fights aswell.

                What was Dillian Whyte like 8-1 or something like that?

                He's 3/1 in the UK. I don't know about Vegas. He's as low as 2-1 underdog in some bookies.

                He's even shorter in some bookies. Canelo is as low as a 2-1 favourite at some bookies aswell.

                He's definitely not a big underdog according to the bookies.
                When have you seen a 3-1 underdog in a super fight? I don't think that's normal at all.

                Yeah I know, but not with two world level fighters coming up against each other in a so-called super fight.

                2-1? seriously?

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by sunny31 View Post
                  Have you got brain damage? Bookies know there stuff. As someone has already said, it is their whole purpose to know. Bookmaking firms use odds compliers, these are people who are specifically hired to work out the odds and ensure the bookies make a profit on a specific contest or event. They normally have intimate knowledge of the sport they are working in, and can also have lots of contacts (not always) who get inside information on specific athletes/teams that you and I will not be privy to. These guys will also have a sound understanding of statistics and mathematics in general.

                  Are they going to get it right every time? Absolutely not! That is impossible. But good sports bettors know the basic principle to winning over a long term is being able to beat the "house", this is only done by knowing your stuff and having as much expertise and knowledge as they do.

                  You are pretty ignorant if you think that bookies know *** all about boxing. That has got to be the quote of the day lol.
                  I could list the reason why bookies no *** all about boxing, but considering they apparently have Khan as 3-1, I don't think I should have to.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by alexguiness View Post
                    It is not a super fight in the traditional sense.

                    It is a big PPV event though.

                    Khan is not really bringing anything to the table apart from hype.

                    Hype sells PPVs.
                    He is bringing his mammoth sized balls to the table.

                    Consensus is that it's intriguing. ...yea you got the brook crew who will hate but with this move they have been rendered irrelevant except on starting threads arguing if this is a big or super fight! !!

                    Canelo is the favourite but if khan brings the best version of himself along with a top plan from virgil then it's closer than you think. ..

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
                      I could list the reason why bookies no *** all about boxing, but considering they apparently have Khan as 3-1, I don't think I should have to.
                      Bookies know ALL sports! They hire people who know about sports. The problem here isn't whether you or I think they know boxing, it is that you don't have a clue about bookies.

                      Bookies are not trying to pick the winner, they are trying to achieve an even spread on both guys. They would have already used calculations to work out the odds in a way that no matter who wins they have will be in profit. The profit is 'in built' in their opening odds and what they predetermine are likely to be the betting patterns of the public. Now in the next few weeks if too much money goes on one fighter then they will assess and change the odds to try and tempt people to put money on the other side so it balances back into their ideal 'profit model'.

                      The bookies objective is much like how the stock market operates, it is to minimise risk and take small gains over a longer period of time.

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