Why do Floyd fans says the IV infusion was not illegal?

[Marvellous1]

Thread and OP completely owned/lawyered.

That's all folks.

[Rath]

You've had your skirt lifted and a good old spanking in this thread. Crawl back to the other thread where you and spoon can lick each others wounds.

LOL where was the spanking?

what has been exposed here are the usual patented typical genius floyd fans ganging up and deflections after deflections.

evading a simple question and bringing up other things = spanking

genius floyd fans logic

[Lester Tutor]

#48!

[kilojay505]

LOL where was the spanking?

what has been exposed here are the usual patented typical genius floyd fans ganging up and deflections after deflections.

evading a simple question and bringing up other things = spanking

genius floyd fans logic

this trolling of a thread like you has been a failure try again.

[Rath]

A USADA official was present when Mayweather had the IV, and he notified them before he took the IV. If there was a chance that it would not be approved, I'm sure he would not have taken it. That said, it makes no difference because USADA was not the governing body. Don't know how many times you're going to make me say that.

Tell me which of this really happened

Scenario 1 USADA went to Floyd's house for surprise random test sample collection and caught Floyd doing IV infusion.

Scenario 2. USADA went to Floyd's house for surprise random test sample collection, Floyd can not provide enough urine sampe, USADA said Floyd you are dehydrated you can now administer IV infusion - meaning Floyd does not realized he was dehydrated.

Scenario 3. Floyd called USADA to inform then that he is dehydrated and would like for USADA to see first hand the IV infusion being Administered.

Questions:

If Floyd call for USADA to inform them that he is dehydrated, who then says he is dehydrated? there was no doctor or any of the authorized personnel who diagnosed him to be dehydrated.

NSAC Dotor said Floyd is fit and fine

USADA never said on record that floyd was dehydrated

If Floyd called USADA to tell them he wants to us IV because he is dehydrated, why was the application for TUE not given to USADA on that same day?

How could USADA grant them IV infusion permission if the application for TUE is not even present? the application for TUE was given 19 days later after the fight

Until now Floyd and his genius fans can not provide the name of the registered nurse or the paramedic who administered the IV infusion.

Was it Ariza, Memo, or his personal chef?

Why on earth when Floyd was training before without Strength and Conditioning Coach he never experienced dehydration, but when he hired two of the best Strength and Conditioning Coach in the boxing business he suffered dehydration.

There was never a record of him being dehydrated @146 lbs before the Pac fight and after it.

Call it confusion between USADA and the NSAC, or whatever, regarding why Mayweather got the retroactive TUE from USADA (who had no authority to grant it under NSAC rules anyway). The bottom line is, the NSAC is the only thing that matters. What Mayweather did or did not do regarding USADA means absolutely nothing. If he didn't break NSAC rules, he didn't break the rules at all.

USADA and NSAC got confused on the day the most expensive almost a billion dollar US fight in history?

Classic example of American Professionalism?

NSAC is the only thing that matters?

I thought Floyd and his genius fans protested so hard when Pac's Team said Let the commission do it's job?


NAC Chapter 467.850 (Administration or use of alcohol, stimulants, drugs or injections) does not list saline solutions as a prohibited injection, and there is no limit on the amount of fluid you can have injected. There's nothing else to talk about.

Why employ USADA the so called olympic style drug test, WADA and all if it's just NSAC that really matters?

Why would NSAC said what Floyd and USADA did was Unacceptable?

Doing nothing wrong is unacceptable for NSAC?

Is this the spanking genius floyd fan is bragging about?

[Rath]

this trolling of a thread like you has been a failure try again.

where is the failure?

[Rath]

You're incorrect. The IV use was 100% legal in Nevada.

An exemption was needed because Floyd & Manny VOLUNTARILY agreed that they would notify USADA about any IV use so that USADA could investigate and make a determination of whether the use was legitimate. Everything was done by the book and USADA determined the use was legitimate.

Floyd did NOT use a banned method. It was 100% legal in Nevada. Floyd & Manny simply voluntarily agreed to notify USADA of said use so USADA could determine if the use was legitimate.

USADA was notified of the IV before it was administered and USADA was present. It seems many of you are very very confused about the exemption. Floyd & Manny agreed that if either one of them used an IV, their medical team would have to submit a report documenting why the IV was administered and USADA would either accept or reject their explanation. That is why the exemption is retroactive. So the medical & legal team of the fighter has time to properly submit the exemption and USADA has time to properly investigate the exemption.

If a fighter is claiming to be dehydrated, you don't wait two weeks to treat him until lawyers & doctors have finished filing their reports and documents. You treat the fighter and then the facts are investigated so USADA can determine if the use was legitimate. If a fighter is dehydrated after a weigh in, what sense would it make to not allow him to be treated until after the bureaucracy (which can take weeks) is settled?

Before i deal with you blah blah blahs first you have to establish that Floyd was dehydrated, severely dehydrated.

Until this day, no doctors, medical records, hospitals, agencies exist that certifies Floyd was dehydrated.

and for the sake of argument let say Floyd was dehydrated it was an emergency case and Floyd's life is in danger.

why does floyd have the time to call and wait for USADA to come to thier house to see if Floyd really needs IV infusion?

why did he not go to the nearest hospital for that emergency situation and let USADA go there to see for themselves.

No one on Floyd's Team is a doctor. There are no Doctors on USADA collection Team. what kind of life and death emergency was that. Did Floyd's life have to give way for the USADA permission/TUE because it was on the contract?

genius floyd fan and his logic

[Rath]

Because Floyd & Manny negotiated in their contract that it would be needed. Period.

It was 100% legal in Nevada, but Floyd & Manny voluntarily agreed to make USADA aware of said use so USADA could conduct an investigation and decide whether the use was legitimate.

This is very very simple stuff. Try to keep up please.

If it the TUE was needed in the contract, then Floyd breach that contract.\

There was no available TUE on the night of the fight there was not even an application available on the night of the fight because the application for TUE was only made 19 days later.

oh the spanking

[Furn]

https://wada-main-prod.s3.amazonaws....es_V6.0_EN.pdf

Dated January 2012.

1.1.3. Retroactive TUEs

There are situations for which TUEs may be granted retroactively.
Nevertheless, even if a potential retroactive TUE case is examined, under
no circumstances does this provide any guarantee that the TUE will be
granted. The evaluation procedure is the same as that for the standard
TUE application. The application will be studied by the relevant TUEC,
which will issue its decision.

In accordance with Article 4.3 of the International Standard for TUEs, the
following two situations may result in a retroactive TUE:


1. Emergency treatment or treatment of an acute medical condition.

2. If, due to exceptional circumstances, there was insufficient time or opportunity for an applicant to submit, or a TUEC to consider, an application prior to doping control.

By way of explanation in relation to the aforementioned points:

 An emergency situation occurs when the life of an Athlete could be
at risk if he/she is unable to Use the Prohibited Substance or
Method; in other words, if the medical condition justifies the
treatment and warrants immediate administration.

 Circumstances are considered to be exceptional when, for example, a TUE cannot be granted in time through no fault of the Athlete. Thus, an Athlete with a chronic illness must request a TUE 30 days prior to an event. Nevertheless, the case of a normally healthy Athlete suddenly affected by a significant medical condition some days prior to an event, and unable to request a TUE within the allotted time to enable the TUEC to grant the TUE, may be considered as an “exceptional circumstance”.

 Medical emergencies or acute medical situations requiring
administration of an otherwise Prohibited Substance before an
application for a TUE can be made are uncommon. Similarly,
circumstances requiring expedited consideration of an application
for a TUE due to imminent competition are infrequent. Anti-Doping
Organisations granting TUEs should have internal procedures that
permit such situations to be addressed.


Mayweather cited severe dehydration with less than 24 hours to go until fight time. Pretty sure that qualifies him for a retroactive TUE by way of #2 under the WADA Code. Though again, it still doesn't matter because the NSAC was the governing body, which means that he would follow their rules, which do not adhere to the WADA code 100%

Dehydration is not a chronic illness and rules have changed since 2012

[DeadLikeMe]

Dehydration is not a chronic illness

Read point #1