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  • aboutfkntime
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    #31
    Originally posted by Red Cyclone
    They really do want to molly coddle poor old Anthony Joshua!
    Look at the size of Joshua he is a physically gifted athlete in his prime If not now then when?
    AJ is absolutely ready for Martin and I know for a fact he'd flatten him in a couple of rounds If that.

    The muppet posters are really starting to crawl out of the woodwork.

    At a guess, you know absolutely nothing about this sport..... 0

    I highly doubt that it is appropriate for you to give a professional fighter advice about anything.

    What about the fundamental errors that McGuigan mentioned in the article?

    We can just forget about those, simply because Joshua is a "physically gifted athlete in his prime"?

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      #32
      Originally posted by mlac
      You dont seem to understand how big a cash cow joshua is for hearn.

      He is his No.1 guy no one brings numbers like joshua, he is a prospect who got rocked in his last fight, if that was any top 10 heavyweight, 9/10 of those heavyweights would of finished joshua in round 2 of the dillian fight.

      he is a PPV star for 10 YEARS if managed correctly, there is absolutely no need to rush him...

      Yep..... why break your new toy now, better to ensure that the groundwork is there for a long and successful career.

      good post

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        #33
        Originally posted by Steve plunger
        If I was any heavyweight I would be wary stepping in the ring with joshua.....he's got great power, he's athletic, he's a got a pedigree pedigree and he's got size......in my eyes no one should be safe with joshua and the only way to learn is to step up....then your get even better....and every heavyweight brings differnt styles to the ring and you adapt a gameplan to deal with that style...Martin in April for the title then summer a good defence against a top 10 fighter and by the end of the year it's gonna be on to the top 5....wilder,fury,(fading) klitchko, ortiz ,Parker or povetkin...that's it so what's the problem lol

        jesus H christ


        you say the dumbest **** for a supposed boxing expert and all-around genius

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          #34
          Originally posted by about.thousands
          But he doesn't have to fight Fury/Wilder/Ortiz/Stiverne next. His only mandated fight would be a year from April. After his last fight Hearn said he was about 18 months away from stepping up. That would put him right on track. Beat Martin. Fight a Chisora then a bum. Fight your IBF mandatory and he's ready for big time. I don't see how winning the IBF title would derail his plans? Have you seen the IBF rankings?

          It's not about mandated.

          It's about refusing legitimate challenges from Wilder/Fury/Povetkin, who will see him as inexperienced and vulnerable..... just like Team Joshua see Martin as inexperienced and vulnerable.

          Right so he beats Martin, and Wilder/Fury approach him to negotiate..... you tell me what excuse his team will use to avoid those fights?

          I cannot see how that situation is necessary, or how it will benefit Joshua.

          The point is, he is obviously not ready.

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            #35
            When Canelo first won his title, he got BASHED for fighting scrubs.

            Joshua is making a fine living right now, as he develops his craft against increasingly stiffer levels of competition.

            Why change, and potentially fk, that..... when he clearly isn't ready?

            That belt won't earn him any additional money over-and-above what he makes now..... and he aint ready for those big fights yet.

            They should give him time for 2 reasons.....
            * he clearly aint ready
            * they have time, so why not

            10 years PPV superstar > 2 shaky defenses and a loss to Wilder.

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              #36
              Originally posted by aboutfkntime
              It's not about mandated.

              It's about refusing legitimate challenges from Wilder/Fury/Povetkin, who will see him as inexperienced and vulnerable..... just like Team Joshua see Martin as inexperienced and vulnerable.

              Right so he beats Martin, and Wilder/Fury approach him to negotiate..... you tell me what excuse his team will use to avoid those fights?

              I cannot see how that situation is necessary, or how it will benefit Joshua.

              The point is, he is obviously not ready.
              After his last fight Hearn said he was about 18 months away from stepping up. A fight with Martin in April. Fury and Wilder are fighting around the same time. They'll be looking to fight each other if they both win. So he could fight Chisora around August/September. The Fury/Wilder fight would be around November. He could take another fight in Feb/March and he'd be right on track.

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                #37
                He is too much of a Unknown. He is being called the worse Champion by some fans I get that but that doesn't make it true. Nobody has seen enough of Martin to assess him properly. All I know is that he is a big Southpaw. I think he should wait, at least get a chance to study the guy a bit more vs Solid Opponents

                Don't fight for a damn Title until YOU'RE READY! Last think I would want is for Joshua to win a World Title then go back to fighting Weak Opponents then everybody will cry about that and turn on him and tell him how he needs to "STEP UP COMPETITION".

                Let him continue to work his way up with NO SHORTCUTS! He only has 15 Damn Pro Fights WTF!

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by about.thousands
                  After his last fight Hearn said he was about 18 months away from stepping up. A fight with Martin in April. Fury and Wilder are fighting around the same time. They'll be looking to fight each other if they both win. So he could fight Chisora around August/September. The Fury/Wilder fight would be around November. He could take another fight in Feb/March and he'd be right on track.

                  Actually that doesn't sound bad at all.

                  Maybe they will do something like that, they keep mentioning Chisora.

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                  • M Bison
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                    The muppet posters are really starting to crawl out of the woodwork.

                    At a guess, you know absolutely nothing about this sport..... 0

                    I highly doubt that it is appropriate for you to give a professional fighter advice about anything.

                    What about the fundamental errors that McGuigan mentioned in the article?

                    We can just forget about those, simply because Joshua is a "physically gifted athlete in his prime"?
                    You just want to molly coddle athletes and never test them AND this is exactly what is wrong with the current state of boxing.
                    Boxing has a tonne of fighters building up 20+ fights and not one single time have they been tested all the greats of the past era fight to prove themselves they fight with that gladiator mentality you go in the ring to prove your will AJ is in his late 20's If he isn't ready with his extensive amateur background and several fights he has had in his pros then when will he ever be ready.

                    Fans like you are what is holding the sport back just because someone takes a loss to this resume it doesn't mean that fighter is a bum, crap or not good enough it just means he was willing to test the waters sadly too many casual fans buy into that 0 being maintained actually meaning anything these are the fans who aren't educated enough hence casual not a term I like to use but it seems adequate.

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                    • M Bison
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                      #40
                      Perhaps we should compare Charles Martin career with Anthony Joshua?
                      The thing is though we will learn that Martin best win to date is due to an opponent suffering an injury does that make Martin more experienced?
                      What fight other than the Glazkov fight did Martin take that prove he was ready for the top level?

                      Answer these questions then compare it to why Anthony Joshua isn't ready for the top level and you will look like a hypocrite.

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