who among suspected PED user got away the most: Pacquaio, Mayweather or Marquez?

[ADP02]

Floyd could have easily been severely dehydrated due to a case of acute diarrhea caused by an undisclosed illness or infection. Unless you have evidence that proves Floyd's stool was solid, I'm going to go on record and Floyd needed an iv because of the ****s.

Prove me wrong. You can't.

GOT YOU!

We can speculate all day long. Or we can go with the facts. Your choice.

And don't deflect. Explain how it is not possible floyd had the runs.

Prove you wrong? Yes I can!

I will applaud you for at least trying to respond instead of deflecting (even though you still did when you used the word speculate). That said, I cannot agree with you here.

While Diarrhea is a known reason for dehydration it should be ruled out in this case.

why?

1) What is dehydration? You are losing fluids and that is the case with diarrhea. The big problem with this is that Floyd's weight was stable for 30 days!

2) Just as important, Floyd already told us why he was dehydrated and it certainly was not due to diarrhea.
- "Giving blood contributed to my dehydration." This is BS since he didn;t give blood for 10 days out.
- "Giving urine contributed to my dehydration." This is a lie.
- "Training contributed to my dehydration." We are talking about weigh in day. No long enduring strenuous training going on by now. Floyd would be tapering off.

3) Pre-fight form: There is a question where they ask about any problems that Floyd may have. All he said was that he had allergies.

4) Floyd didn't seem to have to run to the washroom during that whole event (weigh in).



After my previous discussion we had I went for a workout. I weighed myself before and after. It was a very average workout but I still lost 3lbs. I was thirsty and my urine was darker but guess what? I was not close to requiring an IV. I have had much much longer and harder workouts and have even raced before. Lost a lot more weight than today's workout. Never used an IV.


So I know a thing or two about hydration. I'm sure that most would understand at least the basics. Floyd's weight was stable. No need for an IV.

Sorry, try again.

EDIT: You were not supposed to come up with new reasons for his hydration since FLoyd already told us why (all lies). You were supposed to come up with a reasonable explanation for Floyd's excuses. the science behind how one can be severely dehydrated yet, as his critics have pointed out, the evidence does not support it.




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[ADP02]

LMAO. Welcome to mental meltdown!

I told you to walk away and maintain some dignity. Now look what happened to you. You have reached Spoon/Rath level ******ation.

And that's how I know: GOT YOU!

It's over, homie.

Sorry but all you are doing is deflecting.

I'm still waiting for you to give a response. Floyd did not require an IV because there was no way that he was severely dehydrated. If you think he was, let us understand the science behind your views.

Its simple to understand but appears to be too difficult for you to respond. I would think that if you are so sure, the answer would have come to you by now.

[Dosumpthin]

Nice comeback Rath! Rath is arguing with a Walking dead who got owned twice already in a mere 2 pages of arguing with Tangalog and Rath.

Who knows who's alt is Dosomthin, but he clearly is losing this battle of wits. All he can do is to duck Rath's question and pretend it didn't exist.

Game set match.

The real question is how many lives does a zombie flowmo have?

This is going to be one of my last post. I'm going keep it simple.

Rath and spoon think that I have an alternate account. I do not have an alternate account.

I have been reading the boxing news on this website for a long time.

I also read the comments from members for a long time.

Rath and Spoon made a lot of incorrect statements. Other members would explain how and why Rath and spoon were wrong.

Rath and spoon still keep making the same incorrect statements. I thought they were doing it on purpose, because people aren't that dumb.


I learned that Rath and spoon don't understand what an adjective or an adverb is. This does not mean Rath and spoon are dumb.

The English language is complex.

Rath and spoon need to learn what an adjective and how it changes the meaning of certain phrases or words.


This is why Rath and spoon do not understand the difference between notify, random, retroactive or submit.

I tried to give Rath and spoon help with adjectives. Rath and spoon still do not understand.

This is no longer a discussion that is worth any more of my time.

So I will stop posting.

[Spoon23]

Twisting and turning. Dosumpthin lol

So since he had diarrhea. Who diagnosed him that he needed IVS?

Yep, just as I thought..

Nothing..

Tsk tsk tsk..

No physician will come out and clear the air. Your argument has too many holes. You just can't see it since froids divk is way way way up your ass.

[Dosumpthin]

Prove you wrong? Yes I can!

I will applaud you for at least trying to respond instead of deflecting (even though you still did when you used the word speculate). That said, I cannot agree with you here.

Well neither of us have acess to medical records so.....let's call it what it is. Speculation. let's begin with shall we?

While Diarrhea is a known reason for dehydration it should be ruled out in this case.

why?

1) What is dehydration? You are losing fluids and that is the case with diarrhea. The big problem with this is that Floyd's weight was stable for 30 days!

You do not have a daily record of Floyd's weight for thirty days. Wanted to point that out. Even so, it doesn't matter.

Acute diarrhea can happen within hours and be brought on by an infection or undisclosed illness. I can speculate that the dco smelled a strong odor and observed diarrhea running down his leg to confirm Floyd's condition. Depending on the amount and the consistency, Floyd would have lost a significant amount of liquid and key nutrients that can only be replaced rapidly by use of iv. Thus creating the medical condition to justify the iv. The dco requested a sample prior. Floyd was ****ting so frequently he in turn was urinating more than usual as well. Combined with the loss of fluids and excessive urination, Floyd provided a partial sample.


For the same reason Manny used for not disclosing his shoulder injury, we can speculate Floyd may not have disclosed his ****ty medical condition to prevent Manny and his pact@rd army from using it to humiliate him for a psychological advantage. (This is a well know bob ayrum tactic.)

2) Just as important, Floyd already told us why he was dehydrated and it certainly was not due to diarrhea.
- "Giving blood contributed to my dehydration." This is BS since he didn;t give blood for 10 days out.
- "Giving urine contributed to my dehydration." This is a lie.
- "Training contributed to my dehydration." We are talking about weigh in day. No long enduring strenuous training going on by now. Floyd would be tapering off.

"Contributed to" meaning that it wasn't the lone factor. The amount of contribution each factor played wouldn't been determined by a medical physician let alone Floyd himself. And I can speculate Floyd may have been insecure in stating he was ****ting before the fight.

3) Pre-fight form: There is a question where they ask about any problems that Floyd may have. All he said was that he had allergies.

As expected. Diarrhea is a SYMPTOM. Allergies would and can definitely cause diarreha amongst other medical conditions. Obviously whatever it was, it had more of an impact than a torn rotator cuff, because allergies were listed on the form.

4) Floyd didn't seem to have to run to the washroom during that whole event (weigh in).

Nice spin but we both know he was under the supervision of the dco officer. Of course he didn't "run of" to the washroom.

After my previous discussion we had I went for a workout. I weighed myself before and after. It was a very average workout but I still lost 3lbs. I was thirsty and my urine was darker but guess what? I was not close to requiring an IV. I have had much much longer and harder workouts and have even raced before. Lost a lot more weight than today's workout. Never used an IV.


So I know a thing or two about hydration. I'm sure that most would understand at least the basics. Floyd's weight was stable. No need for an IV.

Sorry, try again.

But what texture was your stool?

EDIT: You were not supposed to come up with new reasons for his hydration since FLoyd already told us why (all lies). You were supposed to come up with a reasonable explanation for Floyd's excuses. the science behind how one can be severely dehydrated yet, as his critics have pointed out, the evidence does not support it.




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Done. And you can not dispute my speculation. I'm just getting started. This is just one of the possibilities. As you only requested I provide just one.

[Dosumpthin]

Twisting and turning. Dosumpthin lol

So since he had diarrhea. Who diagnosed him that he needed IVS?

Yep, just as I thought..

Nothing..

Tsk tsk tsk..

No physician will come out and clear the air. Your argument has too many holes. You just can't see it since froids divk is way way way up your ass.

You have to research and post the definitions of the words

adjectives and adverb

and use them in an example sentence; before myself, and I recommend anyone else, respond to your future post. This is a non negotiable requirement.


Thank you.

[Spoon23]

You have to research and post the definitions of the words and use them in an example sentence; before myself, and I recommend anyone else, respond to your future post. This is a non negotiable requirement.


Thank you.

Lol non negotiable actually means:

Shyit he got me! Checkmate.



Dosumpthin also means: how the fuvk did I get into this mess! Help me do something to get out of this. I'm being roasted!! Lmao

[tangalog2200]

There are no discoveries. Only rumors, lies and speculation based on thomas hausers editorial piece "can boxing trust usada".

The information was already reported, so he didnt discover anything, doctor/lawyer/jornalist hauser just voiced his opinion - which was based on misinformation he believed true. He admits he made mistakes and accepted his ******ity.

I didnt think think you were a doctor by the way, and i was right, because you seem to think people can rehydrate with 50ml per 6hours. Thats pretty ****** and you dont have to be a doctor to figure it out.

So as it stands, floyd didnt violate "set rules" in boxing nor did he change the law of physics with his iv use.


He just out-smarted a 2 dimensional fighter who was destined to fail on may2nd. Did you not watch the fight?

it is really amazing how you can misunderstand or intentionally misunderstand what i am saying all along...

on the pac vs floyd suit, floyd settled amicably....why?

floyd did not sue hauser.....again, why?

because floyd was afraid that if he did not settle with pac or if he sued hauser, the case will go on the discovery phase.....that is what i meant of "further discoveries"!

and people can rehydrate even without an iv...and again,

the 50ml/6hrs blah blah are for boxers....per the rules....not per tangalog!

and i don't have to be a doctor to comment on something so basic...

when one needs medical attention, you consult a doctor or seek medical help in a hospital or clinic...

[Rath]

You mean Lance Armstrong? The guy wasn't even a fighter. He was a cyclist. Idiotic comment.

idiotic post get idiotic reply.

that would leave a mark. LOL

[Rath]

This is going to be one of my last post. I'm going keep it simple.

Rath and spoon think that I have an alternate account. I do not have an alternate account.

I have been reading the boxing news on this website for a long time.

I also read the comments from members for a long time.

Rath and Spoon made a lot of incorrect statements. Other members would explain how and why Rath and spoon were wrong.

Rath and spoon still keep making the same incorrect statements. I thought they were doing it on purpose, because people aren't that dumb.


I learned that Rath and spoon don't understand what an adjective or an adverb is. This does not mean Rath and spoon are dumb.

The English language is complex.

Rath and spoon need to learn what an adjective and how it changes the meaning of certain phrases or words.


This is why Rath and spoon do not understand the difference between notify, random, retroactive or submit.

I tried to give Rath and spoon help with adjectives. Rath and spoon still do not understand.

This is no longer a discussion that is worth any more of my time.

So I will stop posting.

the fat lady has sung.

game set and match.

learn the right logic not genius floyd fan's version of logic.

what's the difference between:

genius floyd fans eat crap for lunch and genius floyd fans eat crappy lunch?