who among suspected PED user got away the most: Pacquaio, Mayweather or Marquez?

[Spoon23]

Only facts are that catchweights work a charm innit. Canelo fights for the 160 belt at 155-156, then goes to 165 for the 168, and 172 for the 175 title. Such a pattern would remind me of an "8 weight champ" with purses so good opponents don't care

Wtf is this? This has nothing to do with peds lol

Fl0mos are getting dizzy with this topic. One more stiff jab these guys will hit the canvas hahaha

[Spoon23]

yo man floyd never taken no ped in his life yo

Yeah he just loves IVS, Big difference

[Lester Tutor]

Wtf is this? This has nothing to do with peds lol

Fl0mos are getting dizzy with this topic. One more stiff jab these guys will hit the canvas hahaha

Yeah it has nothing to do with PeDs lol and you're the one posting pictures of Floyd's weight comparisons. Sorry dude, #48 shattered son

[Spoon23]

Yeah it has nothing to do with PeDs lol and you're the one posting pictures of Floyd's weight comparisons. Sorry dude, #48 shattered son

Yeah and look at the polls. Floyd is winning by a landslide lol

Yup winner hahaha

[travestyny]

1) I supplied you with enough evidence and can supply you with more evidence.

You've provided NO EVIDENCE WHAT SO EVER. What are you talking about? You need to learn the meaning of the word evidence. IF you had any clear evidence, people would be calling for Floyd Mayweather's head right now instead of both USADA and NSAC insisting he did nothing wrong. Don't you feel so sad that you are much smarter than everyone else in this world and you've uncovered something groundbreaking so clearly, something only you could have uncovered, yet no one important pays it any attention -- not even the masses of people that hate Mayweather? Guess what? Only Pacroaches are still talking about this because THERE IS NO PROOF HE CHEATED. No one important cares because THERE IS NO PROOF HE CHEATED. You must really think highly of yourself if you think you proved something. Simply put, you didn't. If you did, I suggest you pass it along to someone more important than yourself.

[Regarding Manny Pacquiao's refusal to accept a 14 day cut-off date]

Nope. My point was that you put your foot in your mouth. No one agrees that a 14 day cut off would have affected Manny so much that he couldn't fight. There was no cut off date for Mayweather, he happened to be dehydrated, he still fought, and he still won. If Pacquaio's team felt it was really necessary to avoid the fight all together because he was afraid of the drug testing, that is definitely su****ious. Mayweather didn't avoid anything, so not sure what you are getting at. Did Pacquiao claim he was weakend this time? Don't give me that he could claim ignorance BS. You can't defend him ducking a 14 day cut off any longer.

[Regarding the weight issue]

He was on weight but dehydrated. Is it your argument that it's impossible to be on weight but dehydrated? Why does it mean he has to be lower than 146?

BTW - I have and still do plenty of sports where I get dehydrated a lot. I often weigh myself before the activity and after. Even though I eat and drink fluids while I cycle, for example, I still lose quite a bit of weight. I never had to get an IV to rehydrate myself.

Yea, I should listen to you because you are a world class athelete. Who are you again? lol Again, if you weren't there, you have no legs to stand on. Stop trying to pretend that you are omniscient. Support your facts instead of comparing you lifting a few dumbells in a mirror with what Mayweather does for a career.



3) Wrong, and here is why:

Floyd did not make a request for the TUE until AFTER the fight. About 18 days after the fight. So essentially Floyd went into the fight with no request, no approvals and just as important, without letting the NSAC know about Floyd's medical condition, the IV, the substances that was taken by way of an IV and so on. This is something that FLoyd MUST let the NSAC know. Manny was investigated for an incorrect check mark even though he took nothing and listed the drugs used.

Something he MUST let them know, yet they are happy with what they learned and cleared him of wrongdoing. Once again, the IV was not illegal by NSAC guidelines. I don't want to have to say that again. Second, it was already stated that he notified USADA before the IV and they took a urine sample BEFORE AND AFTER the IV. He also informed them that he would apply for the retroactive TUE. He didn't wait 18 days to tell them that!

The only reason Pacquaio was under THREAT of being investigated is because he made a b*tch move by using his shoulder as an EXCUSE.


[Regarding USADA referring to Pacquiao's misstep].

You are worried about USADA talking? I believe he was under THREAT of being investigated by NSAC. Let the commission do their job! I would feel sorry his team let him down, too, if he actually had a shoulder injury. They didn't let him down because he didn't have a damn injury. However, this is not an issue that USADA has anything to do with because, as stated, it is not an anti-doping issue.

So to answer your question. No, NSAC did not do its job. If it did, just like with Manny, Floyd would be investigated.

So because NSAC deemed that an investigation wasn't necessary, you believe they didn't do their job? lol. You are REALLY feeling yourself, aren't you? I'm noticing a trend here. If it doesn't happen the way you want it to, something is wrong. Got it.

In other words, Floyd should have let the NSAC know about his condition BEFORE the fight!!!

Why would Mayweather apply to NSAC for a TUE when it is not illegal under their guidelines? Yea, think about that, buddy.

4) Man oh man .... you are still not getting it. Hauser said it and I repeated it. There is not enough transparency.

Pacquaio's team negotiated for transparency. They were notified of the IV and the TUE.

When there is not enough transparency there is room for cheating.

But apparently USADA is bad at cheating??? lol

Remember that in an organization you usually have a lot of good people and sometimes a few crooked people.

So now you are implying that Mayweather just corrupted a few of the USADA officials? You really have a lot of insider information about this. Please, tell us more. Anyone a bit closer to USADA to verify this story?


[B]5)[B/]Floyd delayed giving urine on multiple occassions, that we are aware of.

Please find me some information that proves that delaying giving a sample will make you more likely to pass USADA's testing. Sitting around for 5 hours before giving the urine will make you how much more likely to pass their testing? Please give me the facts. In those 5 hours while they are watching him like a hawk, whatever is in his system just sneaks out in flatulence, I presume?

Anything is possible and I can go there but my point was that if Floyd tested positive for something that is part of the WADA prohibited list but not NSAC prohibited list then what would happen? They could have pulled the line that they didn't have to let NSAC know about it because its not illegal as far as NSAC is concerned so why tell them. That was the whole reasoning as to why the didn't let NSAC know about the TUE until after the fight.

NO! No no no!!! I already told you. Based on PRECEDENCE, if he flunked USADA's tests then the other fighter, the promoter, WADA AND THE COMMISSION would be informed. You just want to ignore the precedence that has been set because you have your own agenda. That's very clear.


Results: Its about transparency.
A test result may say that Floyd passed the test but how they came to the conclusion the NSAC does not get that kind of information.
Let me know what they did with those tests where Floyd had a T/E ratio of .69 and .8. Was Floyd concluded to be a PEDs cheat? There is also those rumors about Floyd testing positive 3 times. So you never know what happened behind them doors.

Dude, you can say this about anything that you are not in the know about. Maybe there were really aliens at Area 51. Maybe the moon walk never happened. Maybe Paquaio didn't have surgery at all. Stop grasping at straws.




Finally, as stated before, Floyd also had extra insurance in his policy by getting Memo Heredia.
lol. This addition reeks of desperation. They took a picture together. Roach has spies in Mayweather's camp but no one can confirm Heredia being there on an employed basis? Desperation indeed.

Bottom line is you think you know, but you have absolutely no idea and even less proof. On the other side, there is USADA clearing Floyd and laying down facts in which they have proven Hauser wrong on numerous occasions, there is also NSAC declining to even investigate because they are comfortable with what they learned, after initially being upset, so they clearly weren't bought out at least at that time. Just because you ride your tricycle with a helmet on the weekend doesn't mean you know anything about this matter.

[Lester Tutor]

Yeah and look at the polls. Floyd is winning by a landslide lol

Yup winner hahaha

look at Pac's! Look at the man who put them him sleep. So for whatever excuse you come up with proves the poll is jokes. paradoxes sucks innit

[Spoon23]

look at Pac's! Look at the man who put them him sleep. So for whatever excuse you come up with proves the poll is jokes. paradoxes sucks innit

You are weird

[ADP02]

And you wouldnt be at all biased would you but the big question is who do you think your convincing , snooooooooooz its oooooover Manny officially lost .

Well quite a few who have re-watched the fight said that Manny did better than first thought.

For example, people were actually listening and then believing the CompuBox counts then one sees on replay that Floyd never touched Manny.

It was all perception since for the most part the fight was a tactical fight. One thinks that is a Floyd type fight not a Manny type fight.

Then you watch each round and noticed that Floyd really did little in many of those rounds.

[ADP02]

I stick by everything I posted. Manny deserves more credit. It was a closer fight than that one judge, Roth had it!!!

That's alright by me. At least you gave it a second look and scored it as objective as you could have ( I'm presuming). Lots of close rounds.

[Zaroku]

That's alright by me. At least you gave it a second look and scored it as objective as you could have ( I'm presuming). Lots of close rounds.

Lots of close rounds. I still think Floyd won, but he fought as he always does.
I prefer the nut cracker when weeks let Maidana do his thing. Seeing Floyd distressed and looking for weeks to rescue him was awesome.

Maidana dang near lifted Floyd off the canvas with solid low blows. It was really awesome. Jose Luis Castillo also made Floyd realize that this is fighting, Not Olympic Fencing!!!