who among suspected PED user got away the most: Pacquaio, Mayweather or Marquez?

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  • Rath
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    #151
    Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
    Pacquiao wanted the cut off date so he could pump his body full of crap, like he tried to do with Torodol for the Mayweather fight. Go research what NFL athletes say about Torodol, how they could run into a brick wall and not feel it if they chose to. Faked an injury to juice up for the fight, but it didn't work out.
    oh just like Floyd testing stopped 18 days before the fight?

    Pac requested Toradol - NSAC rejected

    Pac not informed shoulder injury - NSAC investigation

    Floyd using xylocaine for years - allowed

    Floyd IV treatment even if he was not dehydrated, TUE accepted after 21 days, Floyd not informed dehydrated, shoulder injury, brittle hands - allowed NSAC " Floyd did nothing wrong"

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      #152
      Originally posted by Rath
      oh just like Floyd testing stopped 18 days before the fight?

      Pac requested Toradol - NSAC rejected

      Pac not informed shoulder injury - NSAC investigation

      Floyd using xylocaine for years - allowed

      Floyd IV treatment even if he was not dehydrated, TUE accepted after 21 days, Floyd not informed dehydrated, shoulder injury, brittle hands - allowed NSAC " Floyd did nothing wrong"
      Mayweather has never used xylocaine in Nevada under NSAC, lies created by Pacquiao fans.

      http://www.examiner.com/article/neva...ands-are-clean.

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        #153
        Originally posted by Rath
        i need to chill but you have to stop spewing lies.

        you said Pac said he was afraid of injection did you not?
        Pac shat himself once during a televised interview on Letterman. Pac wears a wig. He cheats on his wife with young boys. He's been arrested for arranging dog fights. Pac is actually a Colombian drug lord.

        Boy, it seems I actually don't have to do anything at all.

        Tough break.

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          #154
          Originally posted by monkeyboy
          Pac shat himself once during a televised interview on Letterman. Pac wears a wig. He cheats on his wife with young boys. He's been arrested for arranging dog fights. Pac is actually a Colombian drug lord.

          Boy, it seems I actually don't have to do anything at all.

          Tough break.

          but you got time saying Pac is afraid of injection.

          oh there goes a liar when he's caught spewing lies.

          tough break you say.
          Last edited by Rath; 02-13-2016, 11:00 PM.

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            #155
            Floyd damaging video

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              #156
              Originally posted by Rath
              but you got time saying Pac is afraid of injection.

              oh there goes a liar when he's caught spewing lies.

              tough break you say.
              Jesus. You're a genuine ******. I have no clue what you are talking about and I couldn't care less.

              I was going to keep winding you up but you're majorly weird.

              I'm out.

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              • Spoon23
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                #157
                Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
                Only one flat out refused advanced testing for years.
                Or it could be a duck move by his opponent since his opponent at that time still hasnt grown some man balls?


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                  #158
                  Originally posted by Reloaded
                  Why do you just fabricate BS .
                  Yup it's true.

                  Victor conte explains:

                  Probably the most su****ious part for me:

                  A normal testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio is slightly more than 1-to-1. Conte says that one recent study of the general population “placed the average T-E ratio for whites at 1.2-to-1 and for blacks at 1.3-to-1.”

                  Under WADA standards, a testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio of up to 4-to-1 is acceptable. That allows for any reasonable variation in an athlete’s natural testosterone level (which, for an elite athlete, might be particularly high). If the ratio is above 4-to-1, an athlete is presumed to be doping.

                  Some athletes who use exogenous testosterone game the system by administering exogenous epitestosterone to drive their testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio down beneath the permitted ceiling. This can be done by injection or by the application of epitestosterone as a cream. In the absence of a CIR test, this masks the use of synthetic testosterone.

                  But there’s a catch. If an athlete tries to manipulate his or her testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio, it is difficult to balance the outcome. If an athlete uses too much epitestosterone - and the precise amount is difficult to calibrate - the result can be an abnormally low T-E ratio.

                  Mayweather’s testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio for the April 3, 2013, sample was 0.80. His testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio for the Aug. 18, 2011, sample was 0.69.

                  “That’s a warning flag,” says Don Catlin. “If you’re serious about the testing, it tells you to do the CIR test.”

                  The Nevada State Athletic Commission wasn’t as knowledgeable with regard to PED testing several years ago as it is now. Commission personnel might not have understood the possible implications of the 0.69 and 0.80 numbers. But USADA officials were knowledgeable.


                  # TBE Testosterone Below Epistestosterone! 49-r0id!
                  Last edited by Spoon23; 02-13-2016, 11:33 PM.

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                    #159
                    Originally posted by ADP02
                    Wow Floyd fans will say anything. Just crazy!

                    Just read the bold and then analyze carefully what was said by Floyd and company and what we know so far. What you should be saying that just does not add up is the following:

                    - "Giving blood contributed to the dehydration" Floyd did not give blood for about 10 days prior to when he received the IV.
                    Something doesn't add up.

                    - "Giving urine contributed to the dehydration" Even if you are a fan of Floyd or even related to Floyd you would admit that this is BS.
                    Something doesn't add up.

                    - "Training contributed to the dehydration". Remember that this occurred after the weigh in. Again, there was no prolonged strenuous workout at that point. Taking into considerations that the fight was like 24 hours away and that Floyd would be tapering off his workouts that week and is too experienced to make the mistake and had enough experienced people around him that knew this too.
                    Something doesn't add up.

                    - Before he received an IV what was Floyd doing? He had just weighed in and then drank like a fish and told everyone in his interviews that he feels great. So did his fans here at Boxingscene. Something doesn't add up.

                    - But is this all speculation a Floyd fan would say? Well, the NSAC physician reported that Floyd was not severely dehydrated. The readings(blood pressure, pulse, .... ) captured during the examination just before Floyd received the IV also shows that Floyd was OK. Did not require an emergency IV. So how does one go from being OK according to the NSAC physician that examined Floyd to requiring an IV soon after that? Something doesn't add up.

                    - What you do not bring up is that Floyd with the help of USADA tried to do exactly what you said. How? By trying to put in the contract that Floyd and USADA could have hid the information from Manny and NSAC if Floyd got caught using PEDs and if Floyd was to use an IV and or if Floyd would request for a retroactive TUE. Why put that in the contract unless you had the intention to do just that? Something doesn't add up.


                    - The reason that we waited since 2009 for this fight was because Floyd did not want Manny to pull these kind of tricks and get away with using something that was on the prohibited list. His fans agreed with him. Yet Floyd and USADA wanted to include the above statements in the contract??????? Something doesn't add up.

                    - In 2016 it was Floyd that used something that was on WADA's prohibited list. If you follow the sequence of events and think about what Floyd/USADA tried to put in the contract and what they did put in the contract it makes you say that it was all premeditated!!! Something doesn't add up.
                    1. Apparently you were a part of the Mayweather camp. Seems you know more inside information about him than the rest of us. He said giving blood, giving urine, and intense training all contributed to his dehydration. Were you there to monitor his condition and his preparation? The only thing you've added is a lot of conjecture by yourself about reasons he should not have been dehydrated.

                    2. NSAC physicians examined him and deemed him fit to fight. Where did anyone say he needed an emergency IV? He used the IV to rehydrate, which was not illegal. Let me remind you that NSAC also examined Pacquaio and deemed him ready to go. So what's the deal with that shoulder injury?

                    3. The original contract did not have any language about a retroactive TUE. Read the USADA corrections document to educate yourself on that.

                    "It is important to recognize, however, that the Testing Agreement that was initially presented to the Pacquiao camp contained no specific reference to retroactive TUEs, but rather to the ISTUE which contains the specific retroactive TUE language."

                    But I guess they changed around this code to appease Mayweather???

                    Finally, not only was CIR testing done, which many Pacroaches jumped on because Hauser falsely reported it wasn't, but they used other methods also to monitor fluctuations in his testosterone levels.

                    Again, if they were paid off, it would have been very easy and much smarter to just stay away and feign ignorance.

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                    • Rath
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                      #160
                      Originally posted by monkeyboy
                      Jesus. You're a genuine ******. I have no clue what you are talking about and I couldn't care less.

                      I was going to keep winding you up but you're majorly weird.

                      I'm out.
                      you said Pac was afraid of injection did you or did you not?

                      i said if you can't prove it, then stop spewing lies.

                      now that you are caught, you resorted to kindergarten insult.

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