who among suspected PED user got away the most: Pacquaio, Mayweather or Marquez?

[ADP02]

"You didn't explain ****. THE ARTICLE SHOWS THAT THE T/E RATION **** IS QUESTIONABLE. IT CLEARLY SHOWS THAT. IT ALSO SHOWS THAT THE MASKING **** IS QUESTIONABLE. CLEARLY. IT SHOWS HOW MUCH HAUSER WAS WRONG. YOUR COME BACK IS "MAYBE FLOYD IS DIFFERENT." JUST BE A ****ING MAN AND ADMIT YOU HAVE NOTHING ALREADY."

You responded with "T/E ratio" when I was commenting on "possibility of Floyd masking with an IV of 750ml"

Nice deflection there bud.

How does the masking job allow him to pass the test given the next day? You need the planets to align to prove he was doping.

"Wrong AGAIN!!! Get ready for the planets to align.

May 2nd post fight test is a scheduled and expected test. So they may have had that covered. What do I mean?

a) They micro-dosed and made sure that the PEDs would no longer be in Floyd's system after the fight.

or if that is not the case

b) Since Floyd already had a supervised IV, they could have EASILY had another unsupervised IV prior to the fight. If the tests showed that Floyd had an IV, well he did on May 1st.

"You didn't explain anything"

You wanted a better explanation than that?
I actually provided you with 2 possible scenario to something that you thought there was no answer for.

Your responses looks very idiotic when one puts everything in sequence.




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[ADP02]

Whoa, wait right there buddy. Once again I caught you here so if you got time, let's go thru it.

Point #1: Do you think the only reason people use IV's is to mask PED's? Let's start there.

"then why the IV? Go"

[travestyny]

You responded with "T/E ratio" when I was commenting on "possibility of Floyd masking with an IV of 750ml"

Nice deflection there bud.













You wanted a better explanation than that?
I actually provided you with 2 possible scenario to something that you thought there was no answer for.

Your responses looks very idiotic when one puts everything in sequence.




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Possible scenarios???? Are you kidding me? So what you're saying is that anything could have happened and I'm supposed to believe this is proof? Get out of here. You aren't fooling anyone.

Furthermore, now it was 2 IV's? So USADA had to declare the first IV, but they hid a second IV taken right after the fight?

You are a clown. Come with better than that. I'm here right now buddy. We can go question for question. Let's go.

[travestyny]

"then why the IV? Go"

Is an IV used for rehydration ever? Come on man. You know that it is used widely in MMA and De La Hoya is well known for having used one. I never read a statement that De La Hoya was dehydrated by NSAC. Did you???? But we all know damn well that he was dehydrated. Multiple people stated it.

What did his trainer say about his weight?

Nacho Beristain, De La Hoya’s trainer, disagreed, telling ESTO (via BoxingScene): “This was a fight that should have been won. Oscar was able achieved a great physical condition during his training. I am a witness that he did not have problems with his weight and he was not dried out from the vapors [of a sauna]. During that time he had a nutritionist by his side who took charge of his weight and diet. But at the time of the fight he couldn’t do things well. He couldn’t deal with the versatility of Pacquiao.”

[ADP02]

Possible scenarios???? Are you kidding me? So what you're saying is that anything could have happened and I'm supposed to believe this is proof? Get out of here. You aren't fooling anyone.

Furthermore, now it was 2 IV's? So USADA had to declare the first IV, but they hid a second IV taken right after the fight?

You are a clown. Come with better than that. I'm here right now buddy. We can go question for question. Let's go.

These are legit. You just do not like that I answered your question.

and no, not everything can happen. When they do testing, they can find particle traces that prove that Floyd was using an IV but he had just done one. So there would be a valid explanation.

[Zaroku]

These are legit. You just do not like that I answered your question.

and no, not everything can happen. When they do testing, they can find particle traces that prove that Floyd was using an IV but he had just done one. So there would be a valid explanation.

Heard King Pact@rd spoon is banned... He will be back to support the PAC posse!!!

Peace brother... Headed to the movies with my girl!!!

[travestyny]

These are legit. You just do not like that I answered your question.

and no, not everything can happen. When they do testing, they can find particle traces that prove that Floyd was using an IV but he had just done one. So there would be a valid explanation.

Do you know what proof is???

Manny Pacquaio could have microdosed. Does that mean you believe he did as well? He also could have taken IV's that were not documented.

Come on man. Stop with the bull****.

The question is how would he mask right after the fight? And if he was already microdosing, why would he be masking? You are getting all tangled up.

[ADP02]

Is an IV used for rehydration ever? Come on man. You know that it is used widely in MMA and De La Hoya is well known for having used one. I never read a statement that De La Hoya was dehydrated by NSAC. Did you???? But we all know damn well that he was dehydrated. Multiple people stated it.

What did his trainer say about his weight?

Nacho Beristain, De La Hoya’s trainer, disagreed, telling ESTO (via BoxingScene): “This was a fight that should have been won. Oscar was able achieved a great physical condition during his training. I am a witness that he did not have problems with his weight and he was not dried out from the vapors [of a sauna]. During that time he had a nutritionist by his side who took charge of his weight and diet. But at the time of the fight he couldn’t do things well. He couldn’t deal with the versatility of Pacquiao.”

Others outside the camp said Oscar was dehydrated. Within the camp they blamed other reasons. Remember that they are trainers who tried to put him in the best physical condition.

This statement of yours and one by Oscar's other trainers (Conditioning coach) blamed it on other things.

What were the real reasons they said?
Oscar always had difficulty with southpaws.
Oscar had several southpaws in his camp. Edwin Valero and Ortiz. Especially Valero, got Oscar really good in their sparring. So instead of keeping them they told them that they were not required any longer. That was a big mistake according to Oscar's trainers. They should have been kept throughout the camp. Harder for Ortiz since he had an upcoming fight but not Valero.

That was there explanation. It was a reasonable one since Oscar had lots of problems against Manny Pacquiao, the southpaw.

After the layoff, by then being more of a promoter than fighter, coming down in weight, age, issues against fast southpaws, I'm sure it was a combination of things.

[travestyny]

Others outside the camp said Oscar was dehydrated. Within the camp they blamed other reasons. Remember that they are trainers who tried to put him in the best physical condition.

This statement of yours and one by Oscar's other trainers (Conditioning coach) blamed it on other things.

What were the real reasons they said?
Oscar always had difficulty with southpaws.
Oscar had several southpaws in his camp. Edwin Valero and Ortiz. Especially Valero, got Oscar really good in their sparring. So instead of keeping them they told them that they were not required any longer. That was a big mistake according to Oscar's trainers. They should have been kept throughout the camp. Harder for Ortiz since he had an upcoming fight but not Valero.

That was there explanation. It was a reasonable one since Oscar had lots of problems against Manny Pacquiao, the southpaw.

After the layoff, by then being more of a promoter than fighter, coming down in weight, age, issues against fast southpaws, I'm sure it was a combination of things.

The main point is that there was no official word that he was dehydrated, yet I haven't heard you rail against him using an IV. Is it because he lost? You know damn well that an IV has been used for rehydration purposes. You also know damn well that NSAC has never declared a fighter to have been dehydrated. We already discussed that.

So how do you jump to "he must have been masking because he wasn't dehydrated." The article I pointed you to states that there is some credence given to the opinion that he wasn't severely dehydrated, and I have no problem with that. I've already stated myself that I don't believe he was dehydrated to the point that he would have to be rushed to a hospital. To say he wasn't dehydrated to any extent, I don't believe one bit. Like many other fighters, he used it to rehydrate. He stated it in the video that you goons misunderstood.

"Alex Ariza showed me how to rehydrate like a professional." Did you think he meant Ariza taught him how to drink water?

[ADP02]

Do you know what proof is???

Manny Pacquaio could have microdosed. Does that mean you believe he did as well? He also could have taken IV's that were not documented.

Come on man. Stop with the bull****.

The question is how would he mask right after the fight? And if he was already microdosing, why would he be masking? You are getting all tangled up.

Sorry bud but you are getting tangled up.

I explained it before but I also pointed out that only Floyd can tell you exactly how he did it.

It all starts with the IV. There was no reason for it. If there was no reason for it then Floyd was trying to hide the real reason. PEDs!!!

- Floyd was more than likely micro-dosing right after he was tested. Using his previous testing experience with USADA to calculate when would be the next time and dosing accordingly.

What if the they calculated wrong?
- With the fight being 1 day away, they didn't expect to be tested the day before. So they had to delay and use the IV.

I gave you 2 possibilities for fight night but the more likely is that they knew that test was coming so they had already calculated for that one but I also gave you how they could have done it if that was not the case.

I answered all .... but you can't come up with why Floyd needed an IV.