who among suspected PED user got away the most: Pacquaio, Mayweather or Marquez?

[Dosumpthin]

genius floyd fansand their inaccuracies:

IV infusion is allowed by NSAC - USADA followed this rule - check

TUE should only be given by NSAC - USADA did not follow this rule - check

what Pac said - let the commission do it's job.

floyd and his genius fans - nope not this time, we are cleaning the sport, we want the gold standard of drug testing. We want USADA.

Does NSAC conducts drug testing - yes - check

Does NSAC conducts random drug test - no - check

Does USADA conducts drug testing - yes - check

Does USADA conducts random drug testing - no - check

The why did Floyd and his genius fans rejected Pac's demand of let the commission do it's job?

Floyd and his genius fans said because it was not RANDOM LOL

Does NSAC has it's own drug testing protocol/rules - yes - check

Does NSAC follows by the letter WADA code - no - check

Is NSAC independent of USADA drug testing rules/protocol - yes - check

Does USADA has it's own drug testing protocols/rule - yes - check

Does USADA follows by the letter WADA Code - yes - check

Is USADA independent of NSAC drug testing rules/protocols - yes - check

Who did the drug test for Floyd vs Pac - NSAC - no - check

should NSAC rules/protocols for drug testing be followed - no - check

who did the drug testing for Floyd vs Pac - USADA - yes - check

should USADA drug testing protocols/rules be followed - yes - check

should the NSAC drug testing protocols/rules be followed- no - ? ? ?

according to genius gloyd fans and USADA - NSAC rules/protocols for drug testing allows IV infusion. LOL

Should NSAC drug testing protocols/rules be followed - no - check

USADA did not follow NSAC rules/protocols that TUE should only be authorized by NSAC.

Summary:

USADA did the drug testing and not NSAC and therefore USADA rules/protocols should have been followed not NSAC.

where is this justification of USADA, Floyd, and his genius fans come from that " NSAC allows IV infusion " ?

genius floyd fans and their logic.

Holly **** again.

Get it together man.

Your making the other *******s look bad.

[Rath]

Holly **** again.

Get it together man.

Your making the other *******s look bad.

the point of the contention was

if USADA was the testing agency and not NSAC why were genius floyd fan using NSAC rules to justify IV infusion?

lame reply as usual

have you made that flat earth thread already?

[Dosumpthin]

the point of the contention was

if USADA was the testing agency and not NSAC why were genius floyd fan using NSAC rules to justify IV infusion?

lame reply as usual

have you made that flat earth thread already?

I dont discuss logic with you. I never have and never will. Youre the big joke of the community. You have a severe misunderstanding of a simple concept of "random". No one takes your post seriously.

With that said it burns your soul ms columbia won. She did i have the video proof.

[Dosumpthin]

Im thinking of a RANDOM number. 1-49. Can anyone guess which RANDOM number it is?

[Real King Kong]

Im thinking of a RANDOM number. 1-49. Can anyone guess which RANDOM number it is?

48?
Dosumpthin ➡⬅rath

[Dosumpthin]

48?
Dosumpthin ➡⬅rath

YOU GUESSED IT....


#48



I guess it wasnt RANDOM after all.

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And what signs would they be seeing you think youre an expert on the matter , you tell me what the signs of dehydration is in a fighter , you tell me what the levels are and what the difference is between mild medium and severe ?

And dont forget to point out in your answer when an IV is needed when its not and what are the dosages per kilo for the different degrees of dehydration .

Lets start with Floyd coming in as he usually does at WW and Floyd saying that he always makes 146 EASILY, including the fight in question.

Now lets remember that there is added evidence of the above since there was 30 day, 2 week and 1 week weight information.

So do some math.
If Floyd weighed in at 146 + afterwards you see him on video drinking quite a bit, what is his weight at that point?

So even a Floyd fan would question that Floyd was dehydrated so severely that he still required an IV.


There is more to add but chew on that.

So you have NO signs that you can describe is that right ? you know the signs you ask people to tell you , so again what are the signs ? and what dosages per kg is used to treat mild medium and severe , surely you must know the basis of your argument from the medical perspective ?

You dont need to be severely dehydrated to need IV , thats your first ignorant notion .

If your weight is stable then you are not dehydrated to the point that you require an IV. Come on man, you should know that by now. You are the CW hater, remember? Since its your hero Floyd, you lost all sense of what dehydration can do to you.

What can it do you say? You are losing fluids and consequently are losing weight. That is not hard to understand.

So do some math.
If Floyd weighed in at 146 + afterwards you see him on video drinking quite a bit, what is his weight at that point?

[ADP02]

Sure, if you can tell me what USADA defines as acute and chronic, that would surely help a little, but we'd still need Floyd's medical files, wouldn't we?

But that wasn't my question. What was my question, you ask? Why don't you look back at what you responded to and find out what my question was? It aint that hard! Come on now. Stop playing games.

Like I thought, you have no idea what it means.

EDIT: Just so you know:
Chronic: Its an existing medical condition that the individual has had for a while.
Acute: Recent/current medical condition. So next time say that Floyd had an "acute" medical condition.
See I'm not a bad guy after all .... I just differ in opinions.



Still thinking that Floyd required an IV? Floyd did everything possible to drag out giving that sample just like he has done in the past. There must have been a reason for that. Then that gave enough opportunity to rehydrate himself orally. We saw him do that too.

If he had just finished doing a 200km+ bike ride or a marathon MAYBE but that is not what happened. That day's schedule was to go get weighed in, do a few interviews, head back home, relax, eat, drink, then rest or take in a snooze, eat, drink a bit then sleep until the next day.

I have done those type of bike rides. Often I check my weight before and after. I see the difference in weight lost. NEVER was my weight the same!That meant that I lost lots of fluids even though I was drinking and eating to keep myself hydrated and have energy for the ride.

Floyd was 146 at the weigh in then drank and drank. No IV was required.



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-I said its possible. I said its is probable according to thomas hauser md. I do not subscribe to his version of facts due to my abilty to reason logically.

-saying floyd decides when the testing starts is a non factor for two reasons.

First, there arent any boxers that are tested year round under wada code. So you can substitute floyds name with any fighter that submits to usada or vada. Its pointless for you and hauser to make this an issue for FLOYD. Boxing in general ok. Maybe.

Sencondly, the implications there would mean floyd, or any boxer, would use this to take advantage of peds during a non testing period. Either for recovery or an advantage during training camp as per thomas hauser and victor conte.

Therefore there wouldnt be a need to "mask" or "microdose" being it will be out of their system.

-you say floyd most probably micro dose - ok - but as part of you conspiracies you imply floyd has major influence within usada. Same as hauser. It would be inconsitent to now imply otherwise. Floyds camp has no advanced knowledge of test dates and will not be given a pass in the event he fails a test. Hence the required emergeny delays/iv when they guess wrong.

This behavior would not support the claim of "150,000 usada is on his payroll" conspiracy.

Do you see what i mean as to floyd cant be guilty of EVERY conspiracy? is he the mastermind behind usada or not? This scenario as you describe says no. So any other evidence mentioning "toradol gatorade tue 750ml 150,000" wouldnt apply.

-You said floyd was caught of guard. This theory really make thomas hauser md look silly. Thomas hauser admitted in his response to usada that he was wrong stating that floyd was caught by testing officials. He recanted that accusation and adopted usada version of events into his own. This is alarming being that his original statement is the one that sent shock waves throughout the community.


So. Do you want to maybe provide another scenarior before we go into the details of you micro dosing theory? I ask because it is not cohesive with the other red flags you have presented thus far.

Sorry but we are not talking about other boxers. We are talking about someone who was being tested by USADA. His name is Floyd.

It is quite relevant when Floyd knows when the testing may begin. If you noticed, Floyd has announced some of his recent fights at a late date. Either way, only Floyd knows when. Not USADA not FLoyd's opponent.

example:
"For example, Mayweather didn’t announce Andre Berto as the opponent for his upcoming Sept. 12 fight until Aug. 4, only 39 days before the fight. That didn’t leave much time for serious drug testing. From the conclusion of the Pacquiao fight until the Berto announcement, Mayweather was not subject to USADA testing."

The above is a joke right?


With Floyd being the only one in the know, he could prepare himself to know when he should do what as far as cheating goes. That is, just before the fight, use PEDs and possibly even prepare his own blood (blood doping). You do not think the Vampire facial side effects were su****ious? How about his excuse to get one? Who would be doing that JUST BEFORE training camp?


While your point was confusingly written, you are wrong in saying that some people within USADA cannot be in it. You check out Lance Armstrong for example. Lance had people at different levels helping him but he still required to mask his results, delay being tested and so on. Lance had to even get a retroactive prescription for his prohibited substance. Lance, like Floyd, had his representatives paying off those people. So just like Lance, the same can be the case for Floyd. Get it?


Nobody is saying that Floyd is guilty of everything. If you have read my posts, I point out that its fishy that the NSAC wanted an investigation on Manny and not Floyd, even though they both incorrectly filled out a pre-fight form. Floyd actually got an IV.
Then I point out the transparancy issues that exist. If not for Manny, there was the likelihood that we would never know about the IV scandal. I'm sorry but I'm stuck on the delays and Floyd's excuse for an IV. There is nothing to support that claim. NOTHING! Not one Floyd fan can come up with anything that makes sense.

What I said is that perhaps Floyd was not expecting USADA to be showing up prior to the weigh in. Not because of what you said. Just because he was not expecting to be giving a sample at that moment in the day. So he then intentionally delayed.


Why do I need to change what I said about possibly micro-dosing?

Anyways, Floyd has done some things just like Lance Armstrong. THey were su****ious of Lance but even with all the su****ions, all those investigations, all those theories of what he may be doing, they couldn't catch him. Cheaters are always one step ahead of the testers. We can come up with ways but only Floyd can tell you just like only when Lance came out did the doubters realize that Lance was cheating.




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I dont discuss logic with you. I never have and never will. Youre the big joke of the community. You have a severe misunderstanding of a simple concept of "random". No one takes your post seriously.

With that said it burns your soul ms columbia won. She did i have the video proof.

a poster who have only 25 post and he knows me hahahahaha

care to tell me who's your other account?

your logic is floyd.. err i mean flawed.

genius floyd fan's logic

IV infusion is allowed by NSAC.

NSAC said they are the only one who are authorized to give TUE

genius floyd fans ummmmm ahhhhhhhh #48 doe Pac lost LOL