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who among suspected PED user got away the most: Pacquaio, Mayweather or Marquez?

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  • Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post
    You would think its simple.


    Being that floyd is the face of boxing he is associated with all things that are wrong with the sport. Majority of the "conspiracies" would hold true to boxing as a whole.

    Look at this whole iv issue. Its pretty standard in combat sports and was something that was heavily debated prior to thomas hauser article.

    But people just want floyd so bad you cant even logically reason with them anymore. Its crazy.

    Vampire facial? Is that how he beat manny? Manny was in awe at floyds beauty and prevented hin from landing more than 3 punches in the first three rounds?



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    if IV was pretty standard why was only floyd caught with it?

    and why was he the only one who availed of TUE approved 20 days later after the fight?

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    • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
      No one ever said that it was another full sample. If they weren't concerned with having a sample before the IV, why wouldn't they just wait to get the full sample after the IV? Couldn't the evil Mayweather have stated that he couldn't urine at all and then just waited until after the IV? USADA made it very clear that a partial sample was taken from before the IV for a reason. You just don't have any way to spin this, do you?

      Come on. Your answer to this question is pathetic and you know it.

      Edit--
      Actually, you didn't give much of an answer at all, unless your answer is "who knows what really happened"? Pretty lame since you claim to know everything else that happened. Just explaining what a partial example is doesn't add anything of relevance.
      He was pretty confident in his theory that floyd was caught off gaurd and had to delay testing. But the fact floyd provided a partial sample prior to the iv debunks his theory.


      Tried to tell him thomas hauser RECANTED his claim floyd was caught using using an iv by usada officials.

      "There’s one significant correction in it that I accept. Prior to USADA’s September 17 statement, it was widely believed that its doping control officer went to Mayweather’s Las Vegas home to conduct an unannounced drug test and found evidence of an IV being administered to Mayweather. USADA maintains – and I will accept - that “Mr. Mayweather declared the infusion in advance to the USADA DCO.” - as per thomas hauser himself.....

      Expect more deflections and quotes from victor conte.

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      • Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post
        He was pretty confident in his theory that floyd was caught off gaurd and had to delay testing. But the fact floyd provided a partial sample prior to the iv debunks his theory.


        Tried to tell him thomas hauser RECANTED his claim floyd was caught using using an iv by usada officials.

        "There’s one significant correction in it that I accept. Prior to USADA’s September 17 statement, it was widely believed that its doping control officer went to Mayweather’s Las Vegas home to conduct an unannounced drug test and found evidence of an IV being administered to Mayweather. USADA maintains – and I will accept - that “Mr. Mayweather declared the infusion in advance to the USADA DCO.” - as per thomas hauser himself.....

        Expect more deflections and quotes from victor conte.
        hahaha. It's so funny how they all just bought into everything that Hauser wrote, and they blatantly ignore how many times he was proven to be incorrect.

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        • Originally posted by Rath View Post
          if IV was pretty standard why was only floyd caught with it?

          and why was he the only one who availed of TUE approved 20 days later after the fight?

          "There’s one significant correction in it that I accept. Prior to USADA’s September 17 statement, it was widely believed that its doping control officer went to Mayweather’s Las Vegas home to conduct an unannounced drug test and found evidence of an IV being administered to Mayweather. USADA maintains – and I will accept - that “Mr. Mayweather declared the infusion in advance to the USADA DCO.”
          as per thomas hauser.


          There it is your professor thomas hauser md said it himself.


          And you wonder why the media walked away from the iv scandal.


          THOMAS "Hey look over there I SEE SMOKE" HAUSER.



          LOL

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          • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
            hahaha. It's so funny how they all just bought into everything that Hauser wrote, and they blatantly ignore how many times he was proven to be incorrect.

            I remember when the article came out...
            Sports media went into a frenzy and in an effort to be the first to report the headlines read "floyd caught using abanned substance may 1st".

            Lol.

            Now its.....retro tues are unethical. He owns a trek bike like lance and VAMPIRE FACIALS.
            I HATE FLOYD HES A CHEAT.

            PATHETIC.

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            • Originally posted by fanofslug View Post
              - Famous comment made by Emanuel Steward after being asked if the allegations about Mayweather were true.

              If Mayweather ever took PEDs it would have been a major scandal given his fame and status. Inquiries would have been made and evidence found to discredit him, but because none could be found his detractors decided to spread false allegations via social media. It's difficult to admit his natural talent was the reason behind his amazing legacy when you detest him for beating your favourite boxer, be it JMM or Manny-my-shoulder-hurt-Pacquiao.

              49-0 <---------- Nothing will change that. Accept it and move on with your lives, peasants.
              RIP Manny never saw Floyd potshot party with Pacquiao.

              And if Floyd roided, he didn't and we don't know that.

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              • I mean the boxing world even before Floyd started as an amateur had already known about the Mayweathers. You'd think little Floyd would have an advantage being groomed into this combat sport as a kid. Isn't that the philosophy of a Spartan warrior?

                Or when a great Spartan warrior, at the end of his career, gets fueled against conspiracy forces and networks, he is now all of sudden a PED head?

                Floyd was a BONAFIDE p4p boxer of this era. The dude won the national Golden Gloves in 3 weight classes and then went on to represent the Olympics and clearly got robbed, no different than Roy Jones Jr.

                Floyd fought bigger opposition, naturally, starting in the pros and in the USA. I'm not going to discredit the asian market as they naturally have a clear disadvantage in size, be it boxing, but you can't even compare Floyd's resume to Pac's resume as Pac even got KO'd twice around homeland before ever coming to the states.

                He lost his Lineal against an undefeated Singsurat by KO, and then never bothered to campaign at Flyweight after that..... nor want a rematch for that belt. I guess his calves outgrew the proportion of his body so couldn't make weight and moved up?

                At that time Floyd was already a highlight in boxing beyond Pac, and Pac fought his first Mexican opponent Gabriel Mira, before getting KO'd to Singsurat.

                Pac gets stronger moving up against more seasoned opponents at their class?

                GTFOH. Pacquiao is BEYOND suspect. yall quit playing. Arum be fooling the world just like movie producers around the world always getting nice budgets against anything **** or empathy...



                #48! proper drug testing. the illusion tried by Hauser. FAILED.

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                • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                  No one ever said that it was another full sample. If they weren't concerned with having a sample before the IV, why wouldn't they just wait to get the full sample after the IV? Couldn't the evil Mayweather have stated that he couldn't urine at all and then just waited until after the IV? USADA made it very clear that a partial sample was taken from before the IV for a reason. You just don't have any way to spin this, do you?

                  Come on. Your answer to this question is pathetic and you know it.

                  Edit--
                  Actually, you didn't give much of an answer at all, unless your answer is "who knows what really happened"? Pretty lame since you claim to know everything else that happened. Just explaining what a partial example is doesn't add anything of relevance.
                  Sorry but its the other way around.

                  You guys just do not get it. Then I explain it to you then you say "I get that but .... your answer is pathetic"

                  but the truth is that due to your response, YOU JUST DO NOT GET IT!!!

                  THINK!!! If what little FLoyd gave was enough then the DCO would not have been waiting for 7 hours to get that second sample. That would mean that the first sample was enough to do all tests. It was NOT ....

                  Its actually self explained when one says "partial sample". Its not enough on its own to state if Floyd was positively on PEDs.


                  but you will not get it because you do not want to get it.

                  Just like you do not get that if Floyd came in at 146 + drinking water equates to previous weigh ins that he was not severely dehydrated enough to warrant an IV. You just will NEVER get it!!!

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                  • Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post
                    Im done.

                    If you cant understand a simple concept like "year round testing" and how it relates to all boxers, not just floyd.....our would be debate is pointless.
                    I get it. I didn't say what you were hoping that I would say.


                    how about this concept

                    You do not get that if Floyd came in at 146 + drinking water equates to his previous weigh ins, meaning relatively stable, then he was not severely dehydrated enough to warrant an IV. You just will NEVER get it!!!




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                    Last edited by ADP02; 03-01-2016, 09:39 AM.

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                    • Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post

                      "There’s one significant correction in it that I accept. Prior to USADA’s September 17 statement, it was widely believed that its doping control officer went to Mayweather’s Las Vegas home to conduct an unannounced drug test and found evidence of an IV being administered to Mayweather. USADA maintains – and I will accept - that “Mr. Mayweather declared the infusion in advance to the USADA DCO.”
                      as per thomas hauser.


                      There it is your professor thomas hauser md said it himself.


                      And you wonder why the media walked away from the iv scandal.


                      THOMAS "Hey look over there I SEE SMOKE" HAUSER.



                      LOL

                      so if hasuer wrote something that favors floyd's cause you believed him?

                      and he is not credible if he's not?

                      genius floyd fan and his logic

                      by the way what's the difference between notifying USADA that they would do IV and requesiing USADA for TUE to administer IV?

                      and the reason mainstream i mean murican media stay away from it was because of that single statement?

                      this is really getting easier and easier everytime.
                      Last edited by Rath; 03-01-2016, 09:44 AM.

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