who among suspected PED user got away the most: Pacquaio, Mayweather or Marquez?

[Snoop Frog]

I've never heard of any other athlete receiving a retroactive the****utic use exemption. I've tried to think of legitimate reasons for having one of these besides it simply coming across as a get out of jail free card.

[Dosumpthin]

You aren't fooling anyone. That was just pathetic. Do you plan on proving he was a one arm fighter? Did this full thickness rotator cuff tear seem to cause any pain when he was throwing the right throughout the fight? Did he stop using the right? I'd love to hear what you think of this. We both know you've been scrambling to make your convictions seem legit since I've been stomping you over this issue. Thanks for the laugh.



Wow. Let me remind you of what has happened so far:

1st: you thought I was speculating about the full thickness tear.
I proved you WRONG.

2nd: You questioned the legitimacy of the video of Pacquiao playing basketball, believing that maybe the date was different.
I point you directly to the site that uploaded it and you say it seems OK.

3rd: You now say the video doesn't matter.

Ha. Anyone can see what is going on here. Look how he dribbles with the right and how quickly and easily he lifts it to shoot. This is 3 months after surgery for a full thickness rotator cuff tear. lol. You are embarrassing yourself.


Ha. And now you are trying to justify this yourself with your own speculation? Didn't I show you a quote where Arum said the doctor was amazed and had to see it to believe it? Even Arum had no way of spinning this ****. You are the absolute worst at admitting that you are wrong. You still to this day haven't admitted you were wrong about the "OR" situation, which you clearly are, you are still arguing with another poster about NSAC being the only organization that can grant TUE's, which you are clearly wrong about because a TUE for IV use is not applicable with regards to NSAC, you were clearly wrong about this matter yet you can't admit it. Who cares what you think is happening. Have you found even one doctor that says you can be fully healed in 3 months from this surgery?

Freddie Roach obviously didn't believe it, which is why he said Pacquaio was only joking, but it's clear that Pacquaio was serious. He wouldn't joke about GOD healing his wound and you know it. If he was joking, why did he post this to his personal facebook account:

[IMG]http://i62.***********.com/albums/h95/travestyny/Screen%20Shot%202016-04-19%20at%209.29.12%20PM.png[/IMG]

Yes, HE posted that. So guess who wasn't joking? Guess whose coach has been caught in a lie trying to perform damage control. Are you ready to cry "uncle" yet?



Your last stand of desperation. What is the title of the video put out by people on his own marketing team? Oh yea, It's "Manny Pacquaio's arm is fully recovered". Here you go speculating once more.

Since you like to speculate. Can you speculate about his recovery time? That would be great.

Shoulder Surgery: May 6th, 2015
Should he be playing full contact basketball on, let's say, October 25th, 2015?

"Manny Pacquiao scores his first basket in the Filipino League"
http://hoopshype.com/2015/10/27/mann...lipino-league/

That's a bit less than 6 months. Bryant took his first shot in no-contact basketball 7 months after surgery.

Should he be scuba diving on July 30th?
[IMG]http://i62.***********.com/albums/h95/travestyny/Screen%20Shot%202016-04-19%20at%2010.16.17%20PM.png[/IMG]
That's a bit less than 3 months after surgery.


Should he begin swimming at around, let's say June 19th?
[IMG]http://i62.***********.com/albums/h95/travestyny/Screen%20Shot%202016-04-19%20at%209.34.19%20PM.png[/IMG]

That's a little more than 1 month after surgery


Should he be waving a fuvking flag over his head on June 12th?
[IMG]http://i62.***********.com/albums/h95/travestyny/Screen%20Shot%202016-04-19%20at%209.35.44%20PM.png[/IMG]
A tad bit more than one month after surgery.


So what's your speculative mind say about all of this? Please explain. I need another good laugh.

ps. Give up. It's over. You lost.

OFFICIAL COLOR GUIDE 2.0


RUMOR/MISINFORMATION = purple

SPECULATION/OPINION = blue

MISCONCEPTION/IRRELEVANT = orange

FACT= red

[Larry the boss]

Man, i dont get it..i really dont get it....Why can't ya'll move on? what in your life changed with this fight? how deeply scared are you really? I mean the entire damn world has moved on,even on fight night the same posters are in threads like this instead of the round by round threads..

This is beyond pathetic, it is insanity and ya'll seriously need to seek help. Ya'll refuse to accept the reality that it is over and nothing will ever change that fact..NOTHING!!!

[Dosumpthin]

I've never heard of any other athlete receiving a retroactive the****utic use exemption. I've tried to think of legitimate reasons for having one of these besides it simply coming across as a get out of jail free card.

OFFICIAL COLOR GUIDE 2.0


RUMOR/MISINFORMATION = purple

SPECULATION/OPINION = blue

MISCONCEPTION/IRRELEVANT = orange

FACT= red

[Snoop Frog]

Actually, both statements are facts. Unless you have the ability to read my thoughts and prove otherwise, you're simply using a cute color coding system to try and craft an argument.

[Dosumpthin]

Actually, both statements are facts. Unless you have the ability to read my thoughts and prove otherwise, you're simply using a cute color coding system to try and craft an argument.

OFFICIAL COLOR GUIDE 2.0


RUMOR/MISINFORMATION = purple

SPECULATION/OPINION = blue

MISCONCEPTION/IRRELEVANT = orange

FACT= red

MISINFORMATION, MISCONCEPTION AND OPINION.


Can you prove USADA has never issued a retroactive tue?

No? Then your statement about you "never hearing about a retro tue" regarding its validity is a MISCONCEPTION due to your lack of understanding and ignorance about the subject.

[ADP02]

You aren't fooling anyone. That was just pathetic. Do you plan on proving he was a one arm fighter? Did this full thickness rotator cuff tear seem to cause any pain when he was throwing the right throughout the fight? Did he stop using the right? I'd love to hear what you think of this. We both know you've been scrambling to make your convictions seem legit since I've been stomping you over this issue. Thanks for the laugh.



Wow. Let me remind you of what has happened so far:

1st: you thought I was speculating about the full thickness tear.
I proved you WRONG.

2nd: You questioned the legitimacy of the video of Pacquiao playing basketball, believing that maybe the date was different.
I point you directly to the site that uploaded it and you say it seems OK.

3rd: You now say the video doesn't matter.

Ha. Anyone can see what is going on here. Look how he dribbles with the right and how quickly and easily he lifts it to shoot. This is 3 months after surgery for a full thickness rotator cuff tear. lol. You are embarrassing yourself.


Ha. And now you are trying to justify this yourself with your own speculation? Didn't I show you a quote where Arum said the doctor was amazed and had to see it to believe it? Even Arum had no way of spinning this ****. You are the absolute worst at admitting that you are wrong. You still to this day haven't admitted you were wrong about the "OR" situation, which you clearly are, you are still arguing with another poster about NSAC being the only organization that can grant TUE's, which you are clearly wrong about because a TUE for IV use is not applicable with regards to NSAC, you were clearly wrong about this matter yet you can't admit it. Who cares what you think is happening. Have you found even one doctor that says you can be fully healed in 3 months from this surgery?

Freddie Roach obviously didn't believe it, which is why he said Pacquaio was only joking, but it's clear that Pacquaio was serious. He wouldn't joke about GOD healing his wound and you know it. If he was joking, why did he post this to his personal facebook account:



Yes, HE posted that. So guess who wasn't joking? Guess whose coach has been caught in a lie trying to perform damage control. Are you ready to cry "uncle" yet?



Your last stand of desperation. What is the title of the video put out by people on his own marketing team? Oh yea, It's "Manny Pacquaio's arm is fully recovered". Here you go speculating once more.

Since you like to speculate. Can you speculate about his recovery time? That would be great.

Shoulder Surgery: May 6th, 2015
Should he be playing full contact basketball on, let's say, October 25th, 2015?



That's a bit less than 6 months. Bryant took his first shot in no-contact basketball 7 months after surgery.



That's a little more than 1 month after surgery





So what's your speculative mind say about all of this? Please explain. I need another good laugh.

ps. Give up. It's over. You lost.

Doctor said that there are many variables to consider and that it was a full thickness tear can sometimes play a secondary role to that and suggested just that in Manny's case. Why are you not comprehending that? Is it because it does not fit your agenda? You are having a hard time with this line. Like I told you, this is quite complicated and every case is different. Now if you were at least handling Floyd's IV scandal the same way, I would be with you a bit more and say, I respect your opinion but I'm having a very difficult time now after the constant discussions that we were speculating. Again, rotator cuff injury is complex but now for you its different. HA! Sorry but I do not buy this since you are NOT being consistent!!!

All you did was prove that Manny had a more serious injury while fighting Floyd. That is truly big news to me and I thank you because I thought it was a partial tear. Still bad but now its actually way worse than I had thought. Makes me laugh now!


Sorry but this is much later than what you stated and they are still saying 80-90%. Nice try though.

Manny Pacquiao says shoulder injury is '80 to 90 per cent healed' (article from October 2015)



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/box...turn-ring.html



Here is another at the end of September

Pictures have emerged of the Filipino boxer having physiotherapy and an MRI scan at a hospital in Manila. Doctors said the injury was healing well, .....






.

[ADP02]

Man, i dont get it..i really dont get it....Why can't ya'll move on? what in your life changed with this fight? how deeply scared are you really? I mean the entire damn world has moved on,even on fight night the same posters are in threads like this instead of the round by round threads..

This is beyond pathetic, it is insanity and ya'll seriously need to seek help. Ya'll refuse to accept the reality that it is over and nothing will ever change that fact..NOTHING!!!

Says the guy who started a freaking thread a few weeks ago to try to prove to us that Manny was not injured!

So did you think of what you just said in this post before starting a freaking thread let alone just posting?


So the fact is that even if its 10 years later, you will still be posting about something good about Floyd and if you get news on Manny's injury, you will still let us know.

[Larry the boss]

Says the guy who started a freaking thread a few weeks ago to try to prove to us that Manny was not injured!

So did you think of what you just said in this post before starting a freaking thread let alone just posting?


So the fact is that even if its 10 years later, you will still be posting about something good about Floyd and if you get news on Manny's injury, you will still let us know.

I asked where his scare was,was told the answer and even posted the picture of the scare.. you on the other hand cant accept the fact Manny lost and keep making up delusional **** along with Spoon23 and his other 5 alts..ya'll refuse to accept reality and move on. Hell i have even been praising Manny and his ATG career..ya'll refuse to give Mayweather any credit at all

[ADP02]

When will this **** end???

I thought you wanted Spoon back?