Mayweather's IV injection (Master thread)

[Rath]

not betting on manny and wanting him to win are 2 different things. I wanted algieiri to beat manny but i wasn't ****** enough to bet on him.

you use only one of the numerous proof that i gave you typical dunn.

Can i also use only one of your dehydration symptoms to dispute your statement?

Genius floyd fan logic

dude, the problem is you are limiting "the best" to 3 judges when my statement never meant that. You are making a silly semantics point. Anyone with common sense understood what i was saying.

vegas judges is what i am talking about.

A group of judges. They all can not simply be the "best" because you have to have a benchmark with in the group. Kakzmarek can not be as "best" as moretti and vice-versa

good better best you got that.

spin it dunn lol

there are a pool of judges. When there a big, important fights, the better judges (and referees) usually get the assignment. That doesn't imply the same ones will always get the big fights nor does it suggest that only those who get the fights you listed are the best judges.

that's what your statement says " the big fights are given to the best judges"

you just want to spin it like you always does. Not this time dunn

your point isn't valid because there are far more big fights than just what you listed. List all of them and then maybe your argument would be valid.

your statement says " big fights are given to the best judges"

not " kinda big fight are given to kinda best judges"

not " bigger fights are given to better judges"

not "biggest fights are given to the best judges"

that is why you are finding it hard to spin it dunn

stick with your statement. You dilly dally you lol

you find a conspiracy in everything simply because manny lost.

wrong pac lost against bradley too, check my post about that topic.

Spin it dunn lol

shame on you

[GMAN SUPREME]

gayweather junior is a complete fraud.

[Lester Tutor]

gayweather junior is a complete fraud.

All boxers are frauds. But he has the best skills to make others inferior frauds. Better to be a winning fraud than a less skillful mediocre fraud.

[Spoon23]

All boxers are frauds. But he has the best skills to make others inferior frauds. Better to be a winning fraud than a less skillful mediocre fraud.

Self acceptance. he finally realized Floyd is a fraud.

the thing is most of us believe Floyd is a fraud, but not all boxers are.

But yes, Floyd is.

You are one step to seeing the light brotha'

Fraudster is a certified conman.

GOLD!!!!

Cheers!

[original zero]

nevada was not the testing agency in Floyd vs Pac fight their rules means nothing it was USADA, WADA Code should be followed.

case closed.

floyd and pac were bound by nevada's rules and nevada's testing.

in addition, they voluntarily agreed to specific additional regulations and hired USADA to handle those additional regulations.

everything floyd did was by the book and by the rules.

there is no controversy. you've invented this in your head.

[Spoon23]

floyd and pac were bound by nevada's rules and nevada's testing.

in addition, they voluntarily agreed to specific additional regulations and hired USADA to handle those additional regulations.

everything floyd did was by the book and by the rules.

there is no controversy. you've invented this in your head.

So tell me why did usada not disclose to nsac before the fight that Floyd took ivs. When as you said they are still bound by nevada rules.

Nevada rules according to Bennett,they alone can administer ivs in vegas. Dont you think Usada out of professionalism and courtesy should have informed Nsac before the fight that Floyd took ivs?

Why did usada not disclose that to nevada since you said they are bound by nevada's rules? And nevada rules are the one who distinguishes who needs ivs.

[original zero]

So tell me why did usada not disclose to nsac before the fight that Floyd took ivs. When as you said they are still bound by nevada rules.

Nevada rules according to Bennett,they alone can administer ivs in vegas. Dont you think Usada out of professionalism and courtesy should have informed Nsac before the fight that Floyd took ivs?

Why did usada not disclose that to nevada since you said they are bound by nevada's rules? And nevada rules are the one who distinguishes who needs ivs.

I am very happy to answer your questions Spoon. I am not a Mayweather fan. I am not a Pacquiao fan. I am not even a boxing fan. The only thing I care about is the truth. There is a lot of confusion among boxing fans about the rules and I am trying to clear up some of the confusion.

IV use, in any amount, for any reason, was 100% legal in Nevada. USADA did not notify Nevada about the IV because the IV was 100% legal under Nevada rules. You seem to be under the impression that Nevada did not allow IV. That is not the case.

Even though IV use was allowed in any amount, for any reason, in Nevada, Manny & Floyd chose to make a voluntary agreement that was stricter than what was mandated by Nevada.

So even though Nevada allowed IV for any reason, Manny & Floyd voluntarily hired USADA to police whether IV use was for legitimate reasons. That is why Floyd had to apply for an exemption for a method that was already 100% legal in Nevada, because that was the deal Manny & Floyd made.

The exemption was granted. End of story.

[Spoon23]

I am very happy to answer your questions Spoon. I am not a Mayweather fan. I am not a Pacquiao fan. I am not even a boxing fan. The only thing I care about is the truth. There is a lot of confusion among boxing fans about the rules and I am trying to clear up some of the confusion.

IV use, in any amount, for any reason, was 100% legal in Nevada. USADA did not notify Nevada about the IV because the IV was 100% legal under Nevada rules. You seem to be under the impression that Nevada did not allow IV. That is not the case.

Even though IV use was allowed in any amount, for any reason, in Nevada, Manny & Floyd chose to make a voluntary agreement that was stricter than what was mandated by Nevada.

So even though Nevada allowed IV for any reason, Manny & Floyd voluntarily hired USADA to police whether IV use was for legitimate reasons. That is why Floyd had to apply for an exemption for a method that was already 100% legal in Nevada, because that was the deal Manny & Floyd made.

The exemption was granted. End of story.

Your not answering the question. The question is, at that time USADA didn't inform nsac about the IV use before the fight. At that time.

When as you mentioned in your previous pouts USADA is bound by Nevada rules.

Don't spit by saying IV has always been allowed in Nevada. It is allowed 'only if NSAC allows it'

The thing is Floyd wasn't allowed by nsac before entering the ring. At that time, That is a clear violation by USADA not informing nsac at all times.

Nsac only allows IVS with preconditions. That must be met. How can it be met when they didn't know Floyd went in already sticking IVS before the fight.

See where your comprehension is lacking.

[Spoon23]

I am very happy to answer your questions Spoon. I am not a Mayweather fan. I am not a Pacquiao fan. I am not even a boxing fan. The only thing I care about is the truth. There is a lot of confusion among boxing fans about the rules and I am trying to clear up some of the confusion.

IV use, in any amount, for any reason, was 100% legal in Nevada. USADA did not notify Nevada about the IV because the IV was 100% legal under Nevada rules. You seem to be under the impression that Nevada did not allow IV. That is not the case.

Even though IV use was allowed in any amount, for any reason, in Nevada, Manny & Floyd chose to make a voluntary agreement that was stricter than what was mandated by Nevada.

So even though Nevada allowed IV for any reason, Manny & Floyd voluntarily hired USADA to police whether IV use was for legitimate reasons. That is why Floyd had to apply for an exemption for a method that was already 100% legal in Nevada, because that was the deal Manny & Floyd made.

The exemption was granted. End of story.

Nsac doesnt just allow IVs being used by all athletes. there are preconditions that must be met.

Here is NSAC Bennett speaking out.

Reached for comment about the SB Nation piece, Bennett told the Review-Journal on Wednesday that he doesn't have a problem with Mayweather, but he does have a problem with the USADA.

"As far as USADA, I was extremely disappointed that I wasn't notified right away (about Mayweather receiving an IV). When it comes to TUE, we are the sole agency that approves the administering of TUEs. USADA, nor any other anti-doping agency that does drug testing, doesn't have the authority to adminster a TUE.

"The bottom line is USADA didn't keep us informed, which is totally unacceptable and unprofessional."


They can't just allow ivs. They need to be informed and pass preconditions before nsac allows it.

Plus the fact both athletes agreed to stringent testing. Everyone knows usada shouldnt have allowed ivs to Floyd knowing it can dilute test results. It only screams corruption.

read between the lines bud. Your boy has been had. Ivs is a direct violation to wada testing standards that usada is under in, neglecting that protocol voids their testing procedures.

Usada not informing nsac as well, undermines NSAC governing rules as well.

This is a double wammy.

USADA FUVKED UP BY NOT INFROMING NSAC before hand.

NSAC FUVKED UP FOR AGREEING ON SOMETHING THEY NEVER KNEW HAPPENED IN THE FIRST PLACE.

BOTH FUVKED UP.

MEANS FROID LOOKS GUILTY.

[original zero]

Spoon -

USADA did not inform NSAC at that time because Floyd didn't do anything that violated NSAC rules. NSAC rules allowed IV rehydration. USADA did not see any reason to alert NSAC about something NSAC allows anyway.

I never said USADA was bound by NSAC rules. I said Floyd & Manny were bound by NSAC rules and had to submit to NSAC's drug testing. In addition to NSAC's required drug testing and rules, Floyd & Manny voluntarily agreed to additional regulations and hired USADA to handle their voluntary agreement.

Manny & Floyd voluntarily agreed that USADA would investigate IV use and issue a ruling on whether it was for legitimate reasons. Had nothing to do with NSAC because IV was already allowed by NSAC anyway. Floyd submitted the paperwork required by his voluntary agreement with Manny and USADA approved it. End of story.

You are incorrect about needing NSAC permission for IV. Your entire position is built upon a false premise. NSAC did not require preconditions for IV. You're 100% wrong. My comprehension is great. The problem is that you are 100% wrong about the facts.

Your interpretation of Bennett's statement is incorrect. If you're not a lawyer or a professional, it's understandable why some of this might be confusing. But that doesn't change the fact that you are wrong.

There was no precondition necessary for IV use in Nevada. You simply have no idea what you're talking about.

If you break down Bennett's statement, it's nothing more than empty rhetoric to deflect bad PR. It was puffing and bluster, nothing more.

Yes, only NSAC can issue *NSAC* TUE. Floyd didn't need an NSAC TUE though because IV didn't require TUE in NSAC. However, he needed a USADA TUE to satisfy his voluntary contractual arrangement with Pacquiao.